MNF - Shazier tragedy - broken back?

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#Steelers LB Ryan Shazier’s spinal surgery will necessitate months of recovery, sources say, before he considers a return to football. His season is over. A very difficult situation.

"Considers a return"? How stupid do you have to be? Even if he's fortunate enough to make a full recovery, get the message, already.
 

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There are MULTIPLE reasons someone could need spinal stabilization surgery. Most important for Ryan Shazier now is that there are no complications from surgery. Next few days/weeks will give his docs a better grasp of his prognosis. Anything else is speculation.
 
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I have watched that play dozens of times and still don't understand how the injury happened.
Simple - Shazier launched himself towards the ball carrier, whose momentum was in the opposite direction and he (Shazier) lowered his head so that the top of his helmet was the area which received the maximum force generated by the collision. This blow on the top of the helmet drove his head downward in the direction of his spinal column; causing compression all along the spinal cord.

The proper way to make a tackle is with your face up, looking right at the on-coming player. With this method, the point of first contact is the front of the helmet or the facemask. It may seem counter-intuitive, but I can guarantee you that there is less chance of severe injury if done using this correct method.
 

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Simple - Shazier launched himself towards the ball carrier, whose momentum was in the opposite direction and he (Shazier) lowered his head so that the top of his helmet was the area which received the maximum force generated by the collision. This blow on the top of the helmet drove his head downward in the direction of his spinal column; causing compression all along the spinal cord.

The proper way to make a tackle is with your face up, looking right at the on-coming player. With this method, the point of first contact is the front of the helmet or the facemask. It may seem counter-intuitive, but I can guarantee you that there is less chance of severe injury if done using this correct method.

Your statement has merit but it's hardly that simple, there are things which happen which result from just freak 'what if' in places which sometimes do not relate at the point of contact but enact the injury just the same. I do not think anyone one really can say they know why because if the cause is simply that... well, there are more than a few tackles made every Sunday on game day which do not follow leading properly and this fate which befell Shazier is still not a frequent occurrence in my opinion
 

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I have watched that play dozens of times and still don't understand how the injury happened.

A man once became paralyzed when he hit a minor bump on a riding mower, and complained of lower back pain that night. With the spine, all it takes is one little teensy thing to go wrong.
 
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Your statement has merit but it's hardly that simple, there are things which happen which result from just freak 'what if' in places which sometimes do not relate at the point of contact but enact the injury just the same. I do not think anyone one really can say they know why because if the cause is simply that... well, there are more than a few tackles made every Sunday on game day which do not follow leading properly and this fate which befell Shazier is still not a frequent occurrence in my opinion
I get your point, Jetstream. My comment is in response to splitsecond's comment which seems to me to be saying, "He didn't see anything in that play that could cause a traumatic injury." Like Stout said,
With the spine, all it takes is one little teensy thing to go wrong.
To that point, even had Shazier used proper "heads up" technique, it is possible that he still could have been injured. . . if not on that play, perhaps another.
 

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To that point, even had Shazier used proper "heads up" technique, it is possible that he still could have been injured. . . if not on that play, perhaps another.

I will just say what I normally say.

With the money football generates, how many millions do we all think have go into people studying technique and how to put yourself in the best position not to get hurt ?

There is a tackling form, and there is a reason it is taught, and considered the right way to do it.

You want to take a risk and deviate from that collective knowledge ? Your choice, but tell me and the rest of the scientist out there how that works out for you.

Guy plays on the same team as James Harrison who repeatedly tries to break his own neck on a yearly basis. Just sayin'
 

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"Considers a return"? How stupid do you have to be? Even if he's fortunate enough to make a full recovery, get the message, already.

If you were in his shoes, you'd understand. I tore my ACL (and had a host of other issues) playing contact ball at 33. Every swinging Dick with an opinion was whispering "what did he think was going to happen at 33," and "you just played your last down. Hope you enjoyed it." I rehabed myself as though I was going to return, and I had full intentions of doing so. The hope of strapping back up for another season kept me motivated....

facing the "reality" is not something his psyche needs right now. He needs nothing but positive thoughts... but, I agree, I wouldn't return after regaining my health, and I'm sure he will feel the same.
 

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wow. i was not under the impression that this was only as far as he's come. a lot of people bound to wheelchairs still have feeling in their legs. I hope he makes a recovery enough to live a normal life.
 

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wow. i was not under the impression that this was only as far as he's come. a lot of people bound to wheelchairs still have feeling in their legs. I hope he makes a recovery enough to live a normal life.

Pittsburgh radio last night quoted his father as saying that he will not only make a full recovery, but will play football again.
 
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