2018 QB Class

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Here's a list of college QB's completion percentage. Mayfield is at the top. Rosen is number 34. Jackson is on the 2nd page at 53. I would think you would want a QB who is accurate first & foremost. What is the deal with some of these senior QB's with a high completion percentage? Don't see many of them listed in mocks or mentioned anywhere else.



http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/individual/755

The fact that Jackson plays in a spread offense designed for 'easy' throws and still struggles with accuracy should be a huge red flag.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

It will be interesting to see the QB from Missouri tonight. He's been getting some hype. I have yet to see him play. He's another QB that doesn't complete a high % of passes though with this year's 58% being his best.

 

[DVontel]

The fact that Jackson plays in a spread offense designed for 'easy' throws and still struggles with accuracy should be a huge red flag.

He doesn’t.

Stop going off stats without context & actually watch all of his games.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

He doesn’t.

Stop going off stats without context & actually watch all of his games.

I have watched film on him. He doesn't have the greatest receivers, or the best O-Line, and he does throw a nice ball, but he's such a raw QB that it would be a huge gamble spending a 1st on him. While he's improved his pocket passing...he still has bad foot mechanics for a QB and more often than not looks to run when his #1 isn't open immediately. His intermediate accuracy needs a good deal of work, and he doesn't really throw his receivers open at this point in his game. He's a great athlete with a good arm, but at this point...he's not an NFL ready QB.

 

[DVontel]

I have watched film on him. He doesn't have the greatest receivers, or the best O-Line, and he does throw a nice ball, but he's such a raw QB that it would be a huge gamble spending a 1st on him. While he's improved his pocket passing...he still has bad foot mechanics for a QB and more often than not looks to run when his #1 isn't open immediately. His intermediate accuracy needs a good deal of work, and he doesn't really throw his receivers open at this point in his game. He's a great athlete with a good arm, but at this point...he's not an NFL ready QB.

QB mechanics do not matter to me.

Rodgers has bad mechanics, but that hasn’t stopped him from being the best QB ever from a talent standpoint.

Cam has bad mechanics, but that hasn’t stopped him from winning an MVP & once again leading his team to the playoffs.

Palmer has good mechanics, but where has that really gotten him? NFC Championship appearance at best.

Man, get that “he looks to run when his #1 option isn’t open” horsecrap out of here. I would say the biggest jump he made from last season to this season was his ability to scan the field. There has been numerous plays where he has fooled the Safety into biting one way, while he throw a strike to the other way. He didn’t do too many plays like that last year.


Taking any QB is a “huge gamble”. You just gotta be bold enough & have the right coaching staff around him. Many said Watson wasn’t an NFL Ready QB, but look at what he was doing before the injury.

No QB isn’t going to come out flawless. You’re just going to have to get used to that.

 

[DVontel]

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[AsUpRoDiGy]

QB mechanics do not matter to me.

Rodgers has bad mechanics, but that hasn’t stopped him from being the best QB ever from a talent standpoint.

Cam has bad mechanics, but that hasn’t stopped him from winning an MVP & once again leading his team to the playoffs.

Palmer has good mechanics, but where has that really gotten him? NFC Championship appearance at best.

Man, get that “he looks to run when his #1 option isn’t open” horsecrap out of here. I would say the biggest jump he made from last season to this season was his ability to scan the field. There has been numerous plays where he has fooled the Safety into biting one way, while he throw a strike to the other way. He didn’t do too many plays like that last year.


Taking any QB is a “huge gamble”. You just gotta be bold enough & have the right coaching staff around him. Many said Watson wasn’t an NFL Ready QB, but look at what he was doing before the injury.

No QB isn’t going to come out flawless. You’re just going to have to get used to that.

Here's game tape for you vs Florida State...which was actually a good game for Lamar statistically speaking.

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Notice the bad footwork in the pocket? When he does read through his progressions...he usually doesn't set his feet and throws a wild ball to his receiver. He does the 1 read and go here more than he looks for a 2nd guy. Misses some easy throws to open guys because of bad footwork. Throws a really nice TD pass around the 6:50 mark, but other than that...you can see his lack of field vision and shoddy pocket awareness.

 

[POISON]

Here's a list of college QB's completion percentage. Mayfield is at the top. Rosen is number 34. Jackson is on the 2nd page at 53. I would think you would want a QB who is accurate first & foremost. What is the deal with some of these senior QB's with a high completion percentage? Don't see many of them listed in mocks or mentioned anywhere else.



http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/individual/755

Mason Rudolph at 15, thought it would be higher even though he throws a lot of deep balls.

 

[TheCardFan]

Here's a list of college QB's completion percentage. Mayfield is at the top. Rosen is number 34. Jackson is on the 2nd page at 53. I would think you would want a QB who is accurate first & foremost. What is the deal with some of these senior QB's with a high completion percentage? Don't see many of them listed in mocks or mentioned anywhere else.



http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/individual/755

Here are the all-time NCAA top 30 QB's in career completion percentage. Not exactly a stellar list of NFL franchise QB's.

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[RugbyMuffin]

The fact that Jackson plays in a spread offense designed for 'easy' throws and still struggles with accuracy should be a huge red flag.

Its a red flag every year, for most quarterbacks coming out of college. I have retired that as a red flag, since most college systems are spread offenses, and a lot of NFL teams are following suit.

There are just not enough good QB's that are going to come into the league like Andrew Luck, and even then, to run the offense in the NFL requires not only a high priced QB, but a high priced offensive line (see Andrew Luck - injured).

Goff was a spread QB. Watson was a spread QB. They seem to be just fine in the NFL.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

No QB isn’t going to come out flawless. You’re just going to have to get used to that.

Him and a lot of other people.

Didn't notice you here on the Jackson band wagon. How you doing, the seats are pretty nice on this wagon, BTW.

I am with you Lamar Jackson is my top QB that I would like to see the Cardinals draft.

JMHO, but that is the guy I have circled.

All the others I am still looking at and are all bunched up, and I think there are going to be more than 3 or 4 QB's that stick and play well in the NFL.

Jackson sticks out to me. His overall skill set is just too good. That is a top talent.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Mason Rudolph at 15, thought it would be higher even though he throws a lot of deep balls.

I like Rudolph, and I like Jarrett Stidham. Both are solid QB's. If the Cardinals end up having to pick a QB later on for some reason, either of these two would be a good option, IMO.

 

[Dback Jon]

It will be interesting to see the QB from Missouri tonight. He's been getting some hype. I have yet to see him play. He's another QB that doesn't complete a high % of passes though with this year's 58% being his best.

You mean the one that the advisory board recommended staying in school for another year because he would project to a 3rd at best round pick?

 

[oaken1]

I like Rudolph, and I like Jarrett Stidham. Both are solid QB's. If the Cardinals end up having to pick a QB later on for some reason, either of these two would be a good option, IMO.

Rudolph should easily be there when we pick...might have to trade up if we want to use a second though..
I like Stidham too to some degree... but he should be a round three pick

 

[Krangodnzr]

Rudolph should easily be there when we pick...might have to trade up if we want to use a second though..
I like Stidham too to some degree... but he should be a round three pick

Has Stidham declared? He was a RSoph.

 

[oaken1]

Has Stidham declared? He was a RSoph.

I havent heard anything... all things considered it may be in his best interest to remain in school a bit longer.

 

[cardncubfan]

You mean the one that the advisory board recommended staying in school for another year because he would project to a 3rd at best round pick?

I don't understand why this is an issue. He may want to hedge his bets against injury. If he stays & gets injured then he probably wouldn't be drafted at all.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Perspective of past drafts, great overview of early round picks at the QB position... https://www.newsday.com/sports/football/nfl-draft-how-these-52-qbs-have-done-1.2829033

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

not a 2018 QB, but the QB from Purdue was very impressive last night. He's a sophomore, Elijah Sindelar. Big kid at 6'4 230 and has a great arm.

 

[POISON]

not a 2018 QB, but the QB from Purdue was very impressive last night. He's a sophomore, Elijah Sindelar. Big kid at 6'4 230 and has a great arm.

Yea I saw some of it, kid has potential. Purdue finally looking decent for a change

 

[Jetstream Green]

Rudolph should easily be there when we pick...might have to trade up if we want to use a second though..
I like Stidham too to some degree... but he should be a round three pick

I like Stidham too. He is sort of under the radar but there is a lot to like about him and would actually not mind drafting him round two if we did not go QB in round one

 

[PACardsFan]

Him and a lot of other people.

Didn't notice you here on the Jackson band wagon. How you doing, the seats are pretty nice on this wagon, BTW.

I am with you Lamar Jackson is my top QB that I would like to see the Cardinals draft.

JMHO, but that is the guy I have circled.

All the others I am still looking at and are all bunched up, and I think there are going to be more than 3 or 4 QB's that stick and play well in the NFL.

Jackson sticks out to me. His overall skill set is just too good. That is a top talent.

I’d be fine with Jackson also. He’s a freaky athlete who absolutely can throw the ball. It’s time the Cardinals took a chance & this kid has a very high ceiling.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Rudolph should easily be there when we pick...might have to trade up if we want to use a second though..
I like Stidham too to some degree... but he should be a round three pick

I would not pick either in the 1st round, FYI.

 

[Southpaw]

It will be interesting to see the QB from Missouri tonight. He's been getting some hype. I have yet to see him play. He's another QB that doesn't complete a high % of passes though with this year's 58% being his best.

You mean the one that the advisory board recommended staying in school for another year because he would project to a 3rd at best round pick?

He lost his QB mentor and guru, Josh Heupel to UCF where he replaces Scott Frost. This could influence his decision. If Barry Odom wants to keep Lock he may have to promote a position coach from within.

Promotion from within

1. Andy Hill, Missouri associate head coach and receivers coach

2. Glen Elarbee, Missouri offensive line coach

3. Joe Jon Finley, Missouri tight ends coach

 

[WisconsinCard]

I’d be fine with Jackson also. He’s a freaky athlete who absolutely can throw the ball. It’s time the Cardinals took a chance & this kid has a very high ceiling.

He is my number 1 QB this year if i had to pick make my mock today. McShay has him as the 7th best QB, so who the hell knows. The QB situation in the draft this year will be interesting to say the least.