Washington and 2015

[HeavyB3]

I've seen various posters infer that there is a good chance that DWash is suspended for all of 2015 as well. I'd like to know where this is coming from. I know that he faces another suspension for the domestic violence charge, but that's likely to be 6 games at the most. Why is he being suspended, in your eyes, for the other 10 games? Are we assuming he can't stay away from weed?

 

[BigRedRage]

No reports have come out about a season long suspension. The assumption is that he will get a suspension of 6 games under the new rules.

However: I think he will appeal and because the charge is from so long ago, get it reduced to a 2-4 game suspension instead of 6.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

With the relatively new changes to the CBA when it comes to player behavior, I think a lot of posters are misinformed about Washington and his suspension.

The rules say 6 games, but who knows anymore, we will all know once the NFL takes cares of the situation in the new league year.

Washington CANNOT be trusted though. Football is obviously not in his top three priorities and that is a problem.

Not to mention we don't know what type of player will come back from the suspension. Josh Gordon is one of the best wide receivers I had seen, but when he got back to the league late last year, he was a shell of the player he once was.

Way too many questions surrounding D-Waste to rely on him, IMO

 

[BillsCarnage]

The DV charge is where the speculation is coming from. He was charged before the policy change, so he'll be grandfathered in. He'll probably get 6 and the appeal it with the union fighting it. He'll probably end up with 2-4 games.

Maybe Michael is owed a favor from higher up and he gets off scott free. Unlikely, but you never know.

2-4 will be my guess.

 

[BillsCarnage]

Way too many questions surrounding D-Waste to rely on him, IMO

The Cards want some kind of return on investment, so he'll be here and play.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

The Cards want some kind of return on investment, so he'll be here and play.

Sure, but I highly doubt, they don't have someone in reserve with expectations that he will screw up again.

So, yeah, play him but don't rely on him.

 

[HeavyB3]

Sure, but I highly doubt, they don't have someone in reserve with expectations that he will screw up again.

So, yeah, play him but don't rely on him.

I'm very much ok with this type of thinking, we need a solid second MLB anyway.

Let's hope that the DV was an isolated incident and that he can stay away from the wacky tabacky (or at least not get caught).

I thought I saw somewhere that we are pretty much stuck with his salary and there would be very little savings in cutting him.

 

[Cheesebeef]

No reports have come out about a season long suspension. The assumption is that he will get a suspension of 6 games under the new rules.

However: I think he will appeal and because the charge is from so long ago, get it reduced to a 2-4 game suspension instead of 6.

I'm not sure what length of time has to do with his suspension getting knocked down considering the only reason it's been so long is because he got suspended for something else incredbly stupid PRIOR to his domestic abuse suspension being levied.

 

[Chopper0080]

I'm very much ok with this type of thinking, we need a solid second MLB anyway.

Let's hope that the DV was an isolated incident and that he can stay away from the wacky tabacky (or at least not get caught).

I thought I saw somewhere that we are pretty much stuck with his salary and there would be very little savings in cutting him.

Solid 2nd? You need two solid starters, end of story. When Washington comes back, he should have to earn his starting spot rather than it being given to him. Anything less is inviting further disappointment.

 

[BillsCarnage]

Sure, but I highly doubt, they don't have someone in reserve with expectations that he will screw up again.

So, yeah, play him but don't rely on him.

Of course they will have someone, or two, in line, but he will play. How much is a crap shoot though. He'll have preseason to prove his worth.

 

[splitsecond]

He has to be punished under the old rules. Anything more than 2 games is going to be won on appeal. Depending on what he has done during his off time, he could very well be available at the start of the season based on how other drug suspensions were cut down this year. If he has busted his tail to be a better person, then we could be looking at something different.

That being said, no one is going to sign him without some really strict covenants if he is cut. We should be able to work a deal like we did with Honey Badger to keep him around but terminate his contract if he screws up again.

 

[BigRedRage]

I'm not sure what length of time has to do with his suspension getting knocked down considering the only reason it's been so long is because he got suspended for something else incredbly stupid PRIOR to his domestic abuse suspension being levied.

We'll see. Its my hunch. He broke the rule far before the new rule so I think he will be able to appeal it down to the old rule suspension. That is all.

 

[don7031]

Of course they will have someone, or two, in line, but he will play. How much is a crap shoot though. He'll have preseason to prove his worth.

The Cardinals went into this season without middle linebackers to play in passing situations. There is no reason to believe that they haven't already inked Washington's name in as a three down player.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

The Cardinals went into this season without middle linebackers to play in passing situations. There is no reason to believe that they haven't already inked Washington's name in as a three down player.

I will give you three reasons:

1. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...yl-washington-suspended-for-four-games-by-nfl

2. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...yl-washington-suspended-for-at-least-one-year

3. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...aryl-washington-pleads-guilty-in-assault-case

 

[juza76]

Solid 2nd? You need two solid starters, end of story. When Washington comes back, he should have to earn his starting spot rather than it being given to him. Anything less is inviting further disappointment.

there is no middle linebacker in the nfl could bench a healthy and ''clean ''washington

 

[Chopper0080]

there is no middle linebacker in the nfl could bench a healthy and ''clean ''washington

We will disagree on this.

Luke Kuechly
Sean Lee (when healthy)
Jerod Mayo
Navarro Bowman
Patrick Willis
Bobby Wagner
Lauranitis

just off the top of my head.

 

[juza76]

We will disagree on this.

yes is my opinion,i just remember how much this team improved last season when he came back from suspension.
u have a better knowledge of football then me but i never seen a MLB spectacular like daryl washington

 

[BigRedRage]

We will disagree on this.

Luke Kuechly
Sean Lee (when healthy)
Jerod Mayo
Navarro Bowman
Patrick Willis
Bobby Wagner
Lauranitis

just off the top of my head.

IMO when healthy and playing at his top level, Dwash would walk in and start for pretty much any team. He may not supplant a guy like patrick willis but he would likely go right next to them. When all systems were go, he was easily a top 5 ILB IMO.

 

[Chopper0080]

IMO when healthy and playing at his top level, Dwash would walk in and start for pretty much any team. He may not supplant a guy like patrick willis but he would likely go right next to them. When all systems were go, he was easily a top 5 ILB IMO.

...ok...you do realize that Washington has never had the green dot, and set the defense in his entire time here? I like Washington, but he is only exceptional in his blitzing ability and ability to spy mobile QBs. He is average in coverage, and not great at diagnosing and stuffing plays. This isn't to say that his skills are impressive, but he is not one of the top 5 ILBs in football. He is successful due to athleticism more than anything else. He isn't a team leader, and isn't winning the battle pre-snap. It is worth noting that the Cardinals were more comfortable with Dansby in coverage than Washington. Dansby understands how he fits in the coverage while Washington isn't that guy yet.

 

[BigRedRage]

...ok...you do realize that Washington has never had the green dot, and set the defense in his entire time here? I like Washington, but he is only exceptional in his blitzing ability and ability to spy mobile QBs. He is average in coverage, and not great at diagnosing and stuffing plays. This isn't to say that his skills are impressive, but he is not one of the top 5 ILBs in football. He is successful due to athleticism more than anything else. He isn't a team leader, and isn't winning the battle pre-snap. It is worth noting that the Cardinals were more comfortable with Dansby in coverage than Washington. Dansby understands how he fits in the coverage while Washington isn't that guy yet.

To each his own. I think you are underselling him.

 

[TJ]

...ok...you do realize that Washington has never had the green dot, and set the defense in his entire time here? I like Washington, but he is only exceptional in his blitzing ability and ability to spy mobile QBs. He is average in coverage, and not great at diagnosing and stuffing plays. This isn't to say that his skills are impressive, but he is not one of the top 5 ILBs in football. He is successful due to athleticism more than anything else. He isn't a team leader, and isn't winning the battle pre-snap. It is worth noting that the Cardinals were more comfortable with Dansby in coverage than Washington. Dansby understands how he fits in the coverage while Washington isn't that guy yet.

Please provide a link that says Washington has never had the green dot.

 

[TJ]

To each his own. I think you are underselling him.

I agree. I've never seen any problems with Washington setting the defense, diagnosing plays, or struggling with anything pre-snap. Washington's only significant weakness is his conduct off-the-field, and we can only hope he's figured his life out within the past 8 months.

He was missed last season and will be instrumental in this team's success next season.

 

[BigRedRage]

I agree. I've never seen any problems with Washington setting the defense, diagnosing plays, or struggling with anything pre-snap. Washington's only significant weakness is his conduct off-the-field, and we can only hope he's figured his life out within the past 8 months.

He was missed last season and will be instrumental in this team's success next season.

even dansbys play was OK yet when washington came back, they both looked like allstars. We are better if wash can get it together.

 

[kerouac9]

Please provide a link that says Washington has never had the green dot.

You know that it's logically impossible to disprove a negative. Can you provide evidence that he ever wore the green dot? Can you provide evidence that Daryl Washington has even been named a defensive captain?

I can say that the last few seasons Larry Foote, Karlos Dansby, and Paris Lenon wore the green dot and called the plays for the Cards' defense. Those guys cover Washington's entire career as a professional.

 

[TimTheToolmanTebow]

We will disagree on this.

Luke Kuechly
Sean Lee (when healthy)
Jerod Mayo
Navarro Bowman
Patrick Willis
Bobby Wagner
Lauranitis

just off the top of my head.

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