Boldin Scored, WTF is Wrong w/ Whiz????

[jaguarpaw81]

Throw the red flag coach!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[sportznutt]

I thought he scored too......I guess he thought we were gonna run it in.

 

[PDXChris]

Throw the red flag coach!!!!!!!!!!!

He used the red flag on the INT play right before that. You get one in each half and if both are good uses, then you get a third, IIR.

 

[jaguarpaw81]

He used the red flag on the INT play right before that. You get one in each half and if both are good uses, then you get a third, IIR.

That can't be true.

 

[TheHopToad]

He used the red flag on the INT play right before that. You get one in each half and if both are good uses, then you get a third, IIR.

No, you get two challenges per game, and if they are both successful, then you get a third.

I don't think the Boldin play was indisputable enough to overturn. Looked to me like his shin or butt couild have been down before he reached the ball over the goal line. Too close to spend your second challenge on in the first quarter. May need that one if the game is on the line in the fourth quarter.

 

[az1965]

No, he didn't, his knees came down first. However, I thought Breaston had the tip of the ball cross the white line.

 

[PoolBoy]

no way he was in. play was right in front of me. the ball never even got over.

 

[PoolBoy]

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[Mainstreet]

I don't know if Boldin's knee or butt was down first but he had possession of the ball over the white chalk on the goal line. I was puzzled Whiz did not challenge it. A possible touchdown is worth reviewing.

 

[az1965]

He was down before he extended the ball over... it was pretty clear

 

[sportznutt]

Where is the ball when his knee hits the turf?

 

[Shane]

no way he was in. play was right in front of me. the ball never even got over.

I dont care if that was right in front of you or not bro. You saw it full speed. Just replayed it for first time in High def on TV now that I'm home from game. In slow motion that ball clearly breaks the plain of the white line and no part of Q's body had touched the ground. That should have been a TD and Whiz should have challenged. His butt touched the ground first but after he reached the ball over the white line.

 

[Russ Smith]

I thought part of his knee was down but hard to be sure. To be honest with replay these days you just never know.

At the end of the Raiders game yesterday Heyward-bum caught a pass and was ruled in, then under 2 minutes they reviewed it. The replay was obvious, both feet were on the line, no catch. But they upheld the call on the field and ruled it a catch! Not long after he muffed a catch that KC picked to end the game.

These days you just never know whether they will rule correctly or just protect their fellow refs and confirm the call. Given we'd already used one challenge I think Whiz just figured too close to be sure?

Obviously if he'd known we wouldn't score there he would have challenged.

Still don't get the 4th down call, Fitz was being asked to block 2 guys because he lined up inside, should have lined him up outside so the FB takes one guy and TH has to beat the other.

 

[Shane]

I thought part of his knee was down but hard to be sure. To be honest with replay these days you just never know.

Clear as day on instant replay. Knee was not down at all. First body part to touch was his azz and the ball broke the plain.

 

[Russ Smith]

Clear as day on instant replay. Knee was not down at all. First body part to touch was his azz and the ball broke the plain.

I don't doubt you're right, my point is in a lot of games this year it seems even conclusive replays are being upheld. It seems like for some reason this year the refs are protecting each other more and not overturning calls?

Same thing in college, it's why we're seeing so many complaints in the SEC this year about refs.

 

[ReddBird]

So...to get the true result, the play had to be visualized via an ideal TV camera/slow-mo/High Def view -- and people are angry that Whiz, without those advantages, didn't immediately challenge the play?

Tough crowd.

 

[PoolBoy]

sorry bro, but I don't know how he goes backwards after supposedly being over the line BEFORE we was down

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[az1965]

How can you use still picture to provide an argument against events that may be instants apart in changing the decisions? He was already down before he extended his arm. Unless there is video clip to see, it is difficult to argue about this. But at the time at least, it seemed obvious he was down.

 

[Pariah]

I thought it was pretty clear he was down and the ball was still about 6 inches from the GL. I thought it was a good spot after seeing the review (seeing it full speed I thought he was in).

 

[Shane]

sorry bro, but I don't know how he goes backwards after supposedly being over the line BEFORE we was down

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Your showing a still pic after he has already landed and extended the ball past the white chalk mark and the ball had come out of his hand. In slow motion replay in HD it is clear as day and a ref has that in his ability during a replay review. Dont really understand what you think your proving by the pic?

 

[Shane]

Here is the side view at full extension ball over white line. Dont know how good will come out camers isnt High Def. like TV but can clearly see butt not touching ground as well. More pics coming.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

i think Whiz didn't challenge because he didn't want to use his 2nd challenge that early and probably figured they were going to score anyway. It didn't work out that way but it didn't hurt the Cards either seeing as they still won 31-20.

 

[Shane]

Here is a pic at full stretch from other side showing no body parts touching the ground at full stetch!

 

[Shane]

This is different angle but same time frame of pic your showing Syracuse a full 14 frames after he stretched for the endzone and was already rolled over by defender FYI. Actually your pic is almost 30 frames after stretch in your pic the defender is already off him and out of screen except for an arm.

 

[Pariah]

I don't thin those still pictures are conclusive of anything, Shane--we need to see the replay to draw any decisive conclusions, and even then, we've all come to different outcomes.

I think that if even cardinals fans on the message board disagree, then it's pretty clear there would have been inconclusive evidence to overturn the call on the field.