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[Cheesebeef]

Originally posted by Tangodnzr


So get off my case. You and Cheesy are getting beyond pathetic.

Damnit Tango - I thought I was VC! Will you never stop contradicting yourself? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Originally posted by cheesebeef
Damnit Tango - I thought I was VC! Will you never stop contradicting yourself? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Jackass!

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Originally posted by Tangodnzr
Section 11,
Again you do just like Ed.
I already stated in my earlier post that Ken and I had a disagreement in regards to that '97 comment.

You guys keep wanting try to paint me in some kind of corner.
I disagreed with Ken on....as I said before....that issue only.
Nothing was ever said one way or the other in regard to who the top 5 picks were and whether there was any agreement or not.
And even in the passage you just quoted....I simply said what I felt...and I stand by that. Ken and I have had no further problem, in my view anyway.

What IS with you guys anyway?

Tango and I dance like this from time-to-time (no pun intended)...we agree, we disagree, we piss each other off...it's a nice balance...

For the record: I've slammed on Tango before, and he didn't whine (as far as I know), nor have I whined when I felt slighted by Tango...although the support from you guys is much appreciated, it makes me feel good about myself (awwwww)

Tango, your eternal optomism is no worse than cheesebeef's eternal pessimism. Variety of opinion is what makes an excellent board like this suceed!

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Originally posted by Ed B
If you don't ride the high horse, people won't try to knock you off it. Your condescension (never based on fact, just on your never-ending optimism) makes you the target. If you don't want to be criticized, stop being such a raging prick to everyone.

Michael Stone for the 2003 pro bowl.

I do think that you talk down to people from time-to-time Tango...perhaps it is the personal nature of some of your comments that offends others?

 

[Tangodnzr]

Good post Ken,

I guess some here have trouble differentiating between disagreements and turning everything into personal battle grounds for personal agendas.

 

[Tangodnzr]

Ken, I realize I do come off that way sometimes. All I can say is its never any conscious attempt to think I'm better than anyone else.

When I give an opinion, and post something here, I expect others to challenge my position if they see fit. I am never defensive about that. I try to not post something if I don't feel strongly enough about it to take a position. If someone presents me with something that shows me "a better way", hey I'm all for that. I also expect the same from others. That's why I often challenge others when they make statements "I" question. It's not a personal attack on them, but if they make a statement, and are adament about it, then I expect them to be able to substantiate or give reasons why they feel or think the way they do....just as I again expect other to do with me.

I don't HAVE to be right, but I try to be, and expect it out of myself. Why would I want to be any other way?
To me, if you don't have the courage of your own convictions, then what do you have?
Contrary to what some may believe, I'm not afraid of being wrong. Case in point.....I keep saying Michael Stone will have a breakout season. I've said since he was drafted he could be good, and I have continued to believe that. If he doesn't this year, I will find no shame in admitting I was "wrong".

I will continue to always try and be as optomistic as possible. Anyone that wants to oppose me on that is certainly welcome...but they are fighting a losing battle.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

All I can say is that we (that means all of us) need the season to start yesterday!

I'm napping until the draft, unless I need to go potty or something...