Cardinals offer Holliday 6 years 25 million!!

[AzWins23]

Cardinals Offered Holliday 6 years 25 million dollars

Here is a link: AZCENTRAL

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

here's a cut-&-paste from azcentral.com

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/0401cardsnb0401.html

The Cardinals appear to be in a two-way race with Kansas City for free-agent defensive end Vonnie Holliday. Interest from Seattle and Philadelphia has cooled. The Cardinals offered $25 million over six years. Holliday is to visit Kansas City today. He could make a decision by week's end.

I think I've made my feelings on this kind of ludicrous offer for Holliday perfectly clear in other threads.

I have resolved myself to the fact that this is the guy that the Cardinals want, they have the money to spend, and regardless of how I feel about his contract I will root him and his teammates as hard as I always have.

 

[TheCardFan]

6yrs 25m isn't crazy money....that is roughly 4m/season.

The problem will be the stucture.

Will it be 4.15/yr for 6yrs? That is ridiculous...can we have a little cost of living increase?

3, 3.5, 4, 4.5, 5, 5 ?

Then there is the sigining bonus. He is young but also injury proned...and this is a long term deal. 4-6m is probably what it will end up being. Since the Cards don't use calculators, it will probably be 6m SB and 19m over 6yrs or 3.15/yr. Straight line cap hit of 4.15/yr.

Why not save a little up front....if he conitnues to get injured, the cap hit works itself out with higher salaries later. 31 NFL teams are doing it....and we are the smart ones?

 

[pinnacle]

initial reports were that they were offering $4 mil per year salary with a $4 mil signing bonus..$24 mil for 5 years...now it is supposed to be a 6 year deal and the $4 mil per year with $4 mil signing bonus does not equal $26 mil (equals $28 mil)..but I would assume the basic structure of a reasonable singing bonus and a relatively flat salary for the term is still inact..

 

[red desert]

I haven't heard much about Jamir Miller and how he might fit into our plans. Yes, I know he's coming off a major injury, but I'd rather risk 4 million a year on him than on Holliday - more upside IMO. Of course, he's have to want to come back and play for us. Hey, isn't that part of the reason we signed Emmit? Hmmmm . . .

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by red desert
I haven't heard much about Jamir Miller and how he might fit into our plans. Yes, I know he's coming off a major injury, but I'd rather risk 4 million a year on him than on Holliday - more upside IMO. Of course, he's have to want to come back and play for us. Hey, isn't that part of the reason we signed Emmit? Hmmmm . . .

Not to single you out specifically.....

WE WILL NOT SIGN JAMIR MILLER. IT WILL NOT HAPPEN, THE TEAM WOULD NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT, JAMIR WOULDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!

....THE NEXT PERSON WHO BRINGS THIS UP WILL BE HIT OVER THE HEAD WITH A TROUT!

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Hey, what about Jamir Miller? I bet we could sign him and Mark Smith for that much cash! I think that they would both be a good fit here.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by Cardinals.Ken
Hey, what about Jamir Miller? I bet we could sign him and Mark Smith for that much cash! I think that they would both be a good fit here.

Hey and then we can go out and sign Chris Chandler to be our starting QB!

 

[red desert]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
Not to single you out specifically.....

WE WILL NOT SIGN JAMIR MILLER. IT WILL NOT HAPPEN, THE TEAM WOULD NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT, JAMIR WOULDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!

....THE NEXT PERSON WHO BRINGS THIS UP WILL BE HIT OVER THE HEAD WITH A TROUT!

Excuuuuuse me!!!!!!

Seriously, I wasn't aware that subject had been beaten to death. You ask me, this whole Vonnie Holliday deal needs to be put to rest.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by red desert
Excuuuuuse me!!!!!!

Seriously, I wasn't aware that subject had been beaten to death. You ask me, this whole Vonnie Holliday deal needs to be put to rest.

Hopefully!

(by-the-way I was just kidding with you!)

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
WE WILL NOT SIGN JAMIR MILLER. IT WILL NOT HAPPEN, THE TEAM WOULD NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT, JAMIR WOULDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!

....THE NEXT PERSON WHO BRINGS THIS UP WILL BE HIT OVER THE HEAD WITH A TROUT!

Hey! Where's my trout shot!

 

[Dback Jon]

Originally posted by Cardinals.Ken
Hey, what about Jamir Miller? I bet we could sign him and Mark Smith for that much cash! I think that they would both be a good fit here.

And we can coax Wadsworth and Erica out of retirement

While we're at it, lets go after Tom Knight

 

[red desert]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
Hopefully!

(by-the-way I was just kidding with you!)

No offense taken.

Just don't let it happen again . . . or I'll start a thread where I'll ask for us to bring Plummer back, and Pittman.

 

[Stronso]

I think Stan Gelbaugh is available as well.

 

[sLanidRaC]

So Chris Chandler is gonna start? Cool! I love bring'n in the best quality players, still in their prime, an who aren't injury prone.. No wonder we spank all enroute to the SuperBowl every year.

We Rule!

We Rule!!

We Rule!!!

 

[hef]

While we're at it we could get tom tupa or buddy ryan back

 

[Red Air Force]

Originally posted by Stronso
I think Stan Gelbaugh is available as well.

Nope...I just heard that seattle re-signed him to a 10 year 100 million dollar contract to make him a Hag for life.

 

[bankybruce]

What about Bill Goldberg

We could alway sign Bill Goldberg to be our nose tackle, he looks in good shape after tackling the Rock last night and I bet he would be cheaper than Holliday.

 

[bankybruce]

And while we are at it lets sign the Rock too, at least that way they can pretent that we win games.

 

[CardsFan88]

If the cards sign these guys we would have a double digit season......

Gary 'Lower the' Hogeboom
Tony Sacca
Luis Sharpe ---We need a supplier now that DB is gone
Vai Sikahema ---To replace Martay in KR
Tim McDonald ---To battle D.Jackson for Lassiters spot
Leeland McElroy
LeShon Johnson ---I think he has 1 more 200 yard game left
Chuck Cecil --To finally replace tillman
Josh 'Get Some' Booty
Michael Bankston
Anthony Bell --To replace Fredrickson
Fred Brock ---to replace DB
Rich Camarillo---to push Player
Marcus Dowdell ---we need wr depth
Will Furrer
Ken Harvey
Terry Irving
Garth Jax
Jock Jones
Trey Junkin --His bad snaps are behind him...well yeah.
Craig Cupp
Wesley Leasy
Chuck Levy
Michael Zordich
Mike Zandofsky
Andre Waters
Bernard Wilson
Mark Vander Poel ---Look its MVP
Tom Tupa ---As a QB
Anthony Thompson
J.T. Smith
Roy Green
James "Tootie" Robbins
Brad Ottis
Freddie Joe Nunn
Cedric Mack
Robert Massey
Keith McCants
Tony McCombs
Jim McMahon
Stump Mitchell
Ronald Moore
Johnny Johnson
Dexter Manley ---see Luis Sharpe
Jake Plummer ---Just kidding

.....In losses
Think of the team depth we would have.

 

[red desert]

Hey -

all you posters, don't you folkshave jobs? No wonder our economy is where it's at.

Just kidding. It is nice to have your own business, though.

 

[SweetD]

Originally posted by red desert
Hey -

all you posters, don't you folkshave jobs? No wonder our economy is where it's at.

Just kidding. It is nice to have your own business, though.

Got a job! and enjoying setting in my office all day and posting messages on this great board.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Originally posted by SweetD
Got a job! and enjoying setting in my office all day and posting messages on this great board.

I second that motion your Honor!

 

[Tangodnzr]

geez....some of you must be sleepwalking.....none of you have mentioned Larry Centers.