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Josh Hokit’s trash talk is foreign in Alex Pereira’s home country of Brazil.
Pereira (13-3) fights Ciryl Gane (13-2) for the interim heavyweight title in the co-headliner of UFC White House: Freedom 250 on June 14. Hokit (9-0) also takes on Derrick Lewis (29-13) in a heavyweight tilt on the same card.
During a press conference for the card last month in New Jersey, Hokit went on an unprovoked rant on Pereira. Ilia Topuria, who was sitting next to Pereira, stood up in his defense and threw a glass of water at Hokit. The American heavyweight was escorted out of the presser before things could escalate. Pereira believes Hokit crossed a line when he said, “I will chama on your mama.’ While Pereira has heard a lot of trash talk over the years, he believes people rarely bring up their opponents’ mothers. In Pereira’s home country of Brazil, even between kids, all is fun and games until someone’s mother is mentioned.
Hokit has now been banned from the official press conference for the event on June 12 in front of the Lincoln Memorial. However, there is still a chance of Hokit trying to instigate trouble during fight week. Pereira notes that it is easy for Hokit to run his mouth when there is security on standby, ready to intervene. However, Pereira claims he ran into Hokit ahead of their clash at the press conference last month. According to Pereira, he said “Chama” to Hokit, who allegedly just turned and walked away.
“He did cross the line... I've seen guys trash-talk the fighter, the father of the fighter, trash-talk whatever, but never trash-talk the mother,” Pereira told Ariel Helwani. “I don't know how it's in America, but in Brazil, on the street code, you never talk about the mother. When growing up, kids talk to each other, fighting this and that, until we talk about the mother. Then even their friends go, ‘Yo, yo, he just talked about your mom.’ And then that’s the last thing to start a fight… It's easy to say when there's a lot of security around there, people to stop anything from happening. But earlier that same day, he bumped into me, he was about three feet away from me. He looked at me, I ‘Chama.’ He just looked, turned around, and kept going.”
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Pereira (13-3) fights Ciryl Gane (13-2) for the interim heavyweight title in the co-headliner of UFC White House: Freedom 250 on June 14. Hokit (9-0) also takes on Derrick Lewis (29-13) in a heavyweight tilt on the same card.
During a press conference for the card last month in New Jersey, Hokit went on an unprovoked rant on Pereira. Ilia Topuria, who was sitting next to Pereira, stood up in his defense and threw a glass of water at Hokit. The American heavyweight was escorted out of the presser before things could escalate. Pereira believes Hokit crossed a line when he said, “I will chama on your mama.’ While Pereira has heard a lot of trash talk over the years, he believes people rarely bring up their opponents’ mothers. In Pereira’s home country of Brazil, even between kids, all is fun and games until someone’s mother is mentioned.
Hokit has now been banned from the official press conference for the event on June 12 in front of the Lincoln Memorial. However, there is still a chance of Hokit trying to instigate trouble during fight week. Pereira notes that it is easy for Hokit to run his mouth when there is security on standby, ready to intervene. However, Pereira claims he ran into Hokit ahead of their clash at the press conference last month. According to Pereira, he said “Chama” to Hokit, who allegedly just turned and walked away.
“He did cross the line... I've seen guys trash-talk the fighter, the father of the fighter, trash-talk whatever, but never trash-talk the mother,” Pereira told Ariel Helwani. “I don't know how it's in America, but in Brazil, on the street code, you never talk about the mother. When growing up, kids talk to each other, fighting this and that, until we talk about the mother. Then even their friends go, ‘Yo, yo, he just talked about your mom.’ And then that’s the last thing to start a fight… It's easy to say when there's a lot of security around there, people to stop anything from happening. But earlier that same day, he bumped into me, he was about three feet away from me. He looked at me, I ‘Chama.’ He just looked, turned around, and kept going.”
Alex Pereira explains why he believes Josh Hokit crossed the line at the press conference and what he expects this week:
"He crossed the line... I've seen guys trash talk the fighter, the father of the fighter, trash talk whatever, but never trash talk the mother.
I don't know… pic.twitter.com/FoAjZvQJSW— Ariel Helwani (@arielhelwani) June 9, 2026
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