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  1. JCSunsfan

    AYTON TRADED!

    Is it also because all most people knew about Grayson was the dirty play? When you look at his game, he has some real merit as far as defensive tenacity and shooting.
  2. JCSunsfan

    AYTON TRADED!

    Interesting how fast Suns fans have warmed up to the idea of having Grayson Allen once this trade was finalized. I am not sure ANYONE wanted him a month ago. Not criticizing really. It is just interesting.
  3. JCSunsfan

    AYTON TRADED!

    I really don't think so. I think Ainge would have taken Jackson had he shown up. Ryan was a fool of his own making. Ainge just lucked out.
  4. JCSunsfan

    AYTON TRADED!

    Who's Sarver?
  5. JCSunsfan

    2023-24 Around the NBA Thread

    Really? How many do we need? Who does he replace. Right now, I would like an upgrade at center.
  6. JCSunsfan

    New Owner - Mat Ishbia

    This is the same as almost every billionaire. The point he was making is still true.
  7. JCSunsfan

    AYTON TRADED!

    I am pretty sure there was no more to get out of Ayton. It was keep him or this. They have been trying to trade him for a long time. If there was a better deal to be had they would have done it by now.
  8. JCSunsfan

    AYTON TRADED!

    I was expecting to see him on crutches for his first pic in Phoenix. It's just what you expect being a Suns fan.
  9. JCSunsfan

    AYTON TRADED!

    Horrible perspective. If Ayton was so fragile that he could not handle typical contract negotiations, he should be shipped. Besides, this is new ownership now. What more is there for him to be miffed about? Everyone wants to find someone besides Ayton to blame for Ayton's inconsistency. It...
  10. JCSunsfan

    AYTON TRADED!

    I watched this. Most of this was plays of aggressiveness. Throwing his butt back into a player and the trip with his foot going back behind him were the worst of the bunch. The rest of it was no big deal. Aggressive plays, or fairly small movements. He has a reputation that will hurt him...
  11. JCSunsfan

    Who's in the rotation?

    Looks like I agreed with most except I had Bol over Okogie primarily because there are more minutes available for bigs right now--especially with Nurkic health history.
  12. JCSunsfan

    AYTON TRADED!

    Grayson might have the most punchable face in NBA history.
  13. JCSunsfan

    AYTON TRADED!

    Ayton will average 20-11 for Portland and there will be a lot of hand-wringing here. We just have to remember that there is no way that he would have averaged that on this team. There just would not be the offensive touches. Still don't like the trade, but if they just don't want Ayton, well...
  14. JCSunsfan

    AYTON TRADED!

    Ha, At least Nurkic isn't on the court when he isn't playing!
  15. JCSunsfan

    AYTON TRADED!

    Yep. I remember the huge disappointment I had at trading Gilliam. I was so excited we got him with the second pick and I had such high hopes. It was the realization that he was a bust and we had to move on. Rambis was not nearly the talent, but he was an incredibly hard worker and great for...
  16. JCSunsfan

    AYTON TRADED!

    I think it's a horrible trade, but this is clearly a "there is more behind the scenes" situation. I am not sure I care that much anymore.
  17. JCSunsfan

    AYTON TRADED!

    He was immature and did dirty stuff out of frustration. Allen is not so much calculated dirty like Pat Bev. Grayson does not control his temper. Haven't seen much about his problems recently, although I have not been following really either.
  18. JCSunsfan

    AYTON TRADED!

    Anyone remember the Armen Gilliam for Kurt Rambis trade? I kinda feel like that.
  19. JCSunsfan

    AYTON TRADED!

    We can take him! Jrue would be perfect here!
  20. JCSunsfan

    Should Ayton be Traded?

    I don't see anything here that includes Ayton that makes sense to me. Unless there are significant picks in the compensation. But with the apron thing, do picks you trade for go to the end of the first round as well?
  21. JCSunsfan

    OT-Adam Silver speaks about the Kevin Porter situation.

    Suns have lots of players and salary. Trade for him, take the picks, then cut him. Add a few picks to the bare cupboard over the next few years. Probably easier said than done since most of those Suns salaries are either players they want to keep or new signees.
  22. JCSunsfan

    2023 Phoenix Suns Offseason

    HOnestly. We should be able to get SOMEONE from this site on there. Cheese would add some spice to that group.
  23. JCSunsfan

    New Owner - Mat Ishbia

    I guess it does not matter what either of us thinks. What matters is what it says.
  24. JCSunsfan

    New Owner - Mat Ishbia

    Really. I doubt that but I haven't read the new rules.
  25. JCSunsfan

    2023 FIBA World Cup

    This guy will be that feel-good fan favorite for the Suns this year. He will be the one that is sort of the team mascot that everyone cheers for.

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