2026 5th round pick is Reggie Virgil WR

[Cardiac]

I have a tough time with the organization's acceptance of losing and incompetence. Retaining Monti was a part in that. Same with Rallis. The blaming of fans who don't show for games when they are constantly putting a losing product on the field is irritating. Pushing back on the org report cards because they highlight the owner/franchises issues lacks accountability and a willingness to compete. Consistently rolling over cap space when the roster is clearly flawed is wild. Add getting rid of proven NFL players to replace them with completely unproven players or not using the cap space saved to add quality players and it's tough to see the path to being a competitive NFL team.

Can't argue with anything you posted. Very depressing

 

[Chopper0080]

Can't argue with anything you posted. Very depressing

Selfishly, I keep engaging because I don't have anyone else to discuss Cardinals football with.

 

[some dumb guy]

Selfishly, I keep engaging because I don't have anyone else to discuss Cardinals football with.

Maybe we should contact some psychology students for help. They would get some real-life experience and we might get the help we need to break away from this organization...LOL

 

[Chopper0080]

Maybe we should contact some psychology students for help. They would get some real-life experience and we might get the help we need to break away from this organization...LOL

My wife loves it. She knows I am willing to stick through a lot of tough times.

 

[Goldfield]

Normally I would agree. I just think they are all mostly capped with what the Cardinals are putting out at QB (as of right now). That is why I don't think it is generating much discussion. Pretty much every WR/TE convo is "if the QB play is good" which stifles it. Similar convo at RB. People are already tempering their own expectations about the number 3 pick because of the oline and QB. Instead of convo about how Love will flourish behind the oline personnel on the roster OR how he is going to light boxes to run against because of our QB and passing game weapons, the convo shifts to acceptable production because of the offensive environment.

Our OLine is going to be better than people expect. We upgraded both guard positions. We have never had much at RT. I don’t think the QB play is anything worse than we had with Murray. The biggest problem is our division is crazy good. Adding Love will help who ever is at QB.

The D needs to get healthy and the young guys need to take a step up. But just adding a ball control offense is going to at least help the D.

The Cards have always sucked so I’m excited we made changes. Wish we fired all the coaches. Im not as down on Monti it’s only been 3 drafts as a rookie GM and a cheap owner. Tons of injuries. I do think he is better than Kiem and learning.

 

[oaken1]

Our OLine is going to be better than people expect. We upgraded both guard positions. We have never had much at RT. I don’t think the QB play is anything worse than we had with Murray. The biggest problem is our division is crazy good. Adding Love will help who ever is at QB.

The D needs to get healthy and the young guys need to take a step up. But just adding a ball control offense is going to at least help the D.

The Cards have always sucked so I’m excited we made changes. Wish we fired all the coaches. Im not as down on Monti it’s only been 3 drafts as a rookie GM and a cheap owner. Tons of injuries. I do think he is better than Kiem and learning.

we have seen various versions of the Cardinals "Ball Control Offense" over the past few years.
I think we have had enough of that.
we need to see the "can score every time they get the ball" offense.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Our OLine is going to be better than people expect. We upgraded both guard positions. We have never had much at RT. I don’t think the QB play is anything worse than we had with Murray. The biggest problem is our division is crazy good. Adding Love will help who ever is at QB.

The D needs to get healthy and the young guys need to take a step up. But just adding a ball control offense is going to at least help the D.

The Cards have always sucked so I’m excited we made changes. Wish we fired all the coaches. Im not as down on Monti it’s only been 3 drafts as a rookie GM and a cheap owner. Tons of injuries. I do think he is better than Kiem and learning.

The Cardinals have this weird way of surprising when everyone thinks they will be terrible, and disappointing when we think they might be good.

 

[Goldfield]

we have seen various versions of the Cardinals "Ball Control Offense" over the past few years.
I think we have had enough of that.
we need to see the "can score every time they get the ball" offense.

You would need a QB for that.

 

[Yuma]

When you have the wrong QB, it's hard to win. We have seen when the Cards have a good QB they have won. Pretty simple.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

The franchise is 46-86 since 2018. Only 3 or those 8 seasons have they produced more than 5 wins. Only 1 season over .500. I understood people when they were frustrated I wasn't more excited after the Cardinals playoff loss to the Rams. I don't understand when people think I am being overly critical now.

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[Carolinacacti]

we have seen various versions of the Cardinals "Ball Control Offense" over the past few years.
I think we have had enough of that.
we need to see the "can score every time they get the ball" offense.

You have love what do you do. You pass on first down is what you do. Pass it to love see if Harrison can be the man. You pass the ball don't care who the QB is
.

 

[Chopper0080]

Our OLine is going to be better than people expect. We upgraded both guard positions. We have never had much at RT. I don’t think the QB play is anything worse than we had with Murray. The biggest problem is our division is crazy good. Adding Love will help who ever is at QB.

The D needs to get healthy and the young guys need to take a step up. But just adding a ball control offense is going to at least help the D.

The Cards have always sucked so I’m excited we made changes. Wish we fired all the coaches. Im not as down on Monti it’s only been 3 drafts as a rookie GM and a cheap owner. Tons of injuries. I do think he is better than Kiem and learning.

I think our defense is fighting a losing battle to begin with so I don't have much expectations of success from that unit. It's why I think Rallis gets fired. The offense should be expected to look the part and be productive and if not, that is a big problem.

 

[oaken1]

I think our defense is fighting a losing battle to begin with so I don't have much expectations of success from that unit. It's why I think Rallis gets fired. The offense should be expected to look the part and be productive and if not, that is a big problem.

the team focus definitely seems to have shifted from defense to offense first...entire new identity.
my hope... hopium,...whatever...
is that in 23 and 24 we saw a defense that played hard..and despite their lack of talent they were not horrible. not good. but not horrible..and it seemed all that was needed was an infusion of talent to make them decent.
we infused talent and everything went to crap for 25.

however(hopium injection) if we see the defense just get back to the full on effort we saw in 23 and 24 they should be middle of the pack...as sweat and Nolen were not a part of those previous squads.
but middle of the pack is probably the best we can hope for...12-18th
if they manage that the team can compete..likely still be third or fourth in the division...but be competitive

 

[PDXChris]

The franchise is 46-86 since 2018. Only 3 or those 8 seasons have they produced more than 5 wins. Only 1 season over .500. I understood people when they were frustrated I wasn't more excited after the Cardinals playoff loss to the Rams. I don't understand when people think I am being overly critical now.

Here the crazier part, Kyler is responsible for 38 of those 46 wins, wasn't drafted until 2019 and was out with a torn ACL/foot injury for a chunk of those games. He also responsible for 48 of those 86 loses. We are 8-40 without Kyler since 2018.

 

[Chopper0080]

Here the crazier part, Kyler is responsible for 38 of those 46 wins, wasn't drafted until 2019 and was out with a torn ACL/foot injury for a chunk of those games. He also responsible for 48 of those 86 loses. We are 8-40 without Kyler since 2018.

Most teams are not good without their starting QB. My opinion of Kyler is that he likely isn't in the bottom third of NFL QBs with a good team, but will also never be in the top third of QBs regardless of the team.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Most teams are not good without their starting QB. My opinion of Kyler is that he likely isn't in the bottom third of NFL QBs with a good team, but will also never be in the top third of QBs regardless of the team.

He was during chunks of seasons. What I wonder: could a very good coaching staff be able to coax consistency out of Kyler? Could a good coach see the signs things aren't working and get things back on track? Kliff couldn't and neither could this last staff.

 

[some dumb guy]

He was during chunks of seasons. What I wonder: could a very good coaching staff be able to coax consistency out of Kyler? Could a good coach see the signs things aren't working and get things back on track? Kliff couldn't and neither could this last staff.

I'll admit Kyler could have been a great QB, but I really believe his height was the "major" problem. If it wasn't a quick pass, once the pocket started to collapse he just couldn't see the field. Maybe Minnie draws up some bootlegs or roll outs to let him have some vision downfield or they'll end up with 8 or 9 wins max. But good luck to him.

 

[Goldfield]

I'll admit Kyler could have been a great QB, but I really believe his height was the "major" problem. If it wasn't a quick pass, once the pocket started to collapse he just couldn't see the field. Maybe Minnie draws up some bootlegs or roll outs to let him have some vision downfield or they'll end up with 8 or 9 wins max. But good luck to him.

You don’t draft a short QB to be a pocket passer. He was great with his legs and pretty good with his arm. Once he made the business decision not to run he was not a weapon anymore.

 

[some dumb guy]

You don’t draft a short QB to be a pocket passer. He was great with his legs and pretty good with his arm. Once he made the business decision not to run he was not a weapon anymore.

I agree, KK kept calling those WR screens to the right. Murray would get the ball, drop his back foot, step, and throw. It was the slowest move ever. If you're going to call a WR screen with a QB that also played baseball, you go left with a righty. You get the ball step and throw, it's naturally quick. But that's the Vikings problem now

 

[PDXChris]

Sorry, did not mean to derail, my comment was more about how bad this team was. Bruce Arians was able to win with backups, Colt won 3 of those 8 non Kyler games. All the rest, including Sam Bradford and Josh Rosen, went a combined 5-40. We have been so bad at building a good team.

 

[kerouac9]

You have love what do you do. You pass on first down is what you do. Pass it to love see if Harrison can be the man. You pass the ball don't care who the QB is
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Isn’t this what we tried during the 1-11 run? We had the #7 pass offense in the NFL last year.

 

[Carolinacacti]

Isn’t this what we tried during the 1-11 run? We had the #7 pass offense in the NFL last year.

It's a new season you have to have a little hope. I just want some throws on first down. Not run run pass

 

[mel typer]

lol.. but how’s your hands?

I'd buy the Harry a drink but I won't I'm afraid he'll just spill it. "Hey Harry do you want to drop your drink here or go to the outside venue and spill it there?"

 

[BritCard]

When you have the wrong QB, it's hard to win. We have seen when the Cards have a good QB they have won. Pretty simple.

Same the league over. Very rare to win consistently with a mediocre or less quarterback.

 

[BulldogCard]

Same the league over. Very rare to win consistently with a mediocre or less quarterback.

Beck looks the closest thing to that since Palmer. He'll have to show, prove a lot; but he does look the part.