Considering Drafting an OT?

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This is not an unusually strong pool of OTs. So why all the OT talk? The interest has 3 primary causes; need, free agency and injury. Several teams are like the Cards. They don’t have an established starter with whom they are wholly confident. Looking at the Cards, Wilkinson would be the starter if the season began today. He’s viewed as more of a placeholder than a quality starter. I believe he was acquired to play if the Cards ended up selecting a developmental RT who shouldn’t start immediately. Teams like the Pack lost a starter in free agency. Some teams have starters who are already damaged. Plus with 17 games now it’s almost a certainty at least one tackle will miss one or more games.

This class breaks down into 3 groups. The first group is likely immediate, secure starters. This is not to say they don’t have issues. Rather it means they have enough skills to start without hurting their team dramatically or ruining their confidence. I put only 2 players in this category.

Starters

Mauigoa
is the top player on most lists. He’s aggressive and loves to hit people. He’s already a useful run blocker. He’s agile enough that by adding strength, he should become a dominant drive blocker. He’s decent at pass blocking, but figures to be challenged by speed rushers attacking him outside. He’s a solid fit for the Cards, but not a certain Pro Bowler. Additionally he’s an exceptional anchor. Bull rushers will not get passed him. He’ll remind old time Cards’ fans of the mean guys who once populated the line. He still needs work on mirroring and hand placement. Mauigoa is much more athletic than most think. He’s a very safe pick.

Fano is rated by some as the top tackle. He’s played LT and RT, but looks much better at RT. His admirers tout his balanced competency between run and pass blocking. At the moment he lacks the strength to fully control top power rushers and while agile is not the rushing force Mauigoa is. If you’re a combine fan he topped the tackles in the 3 cone drill. It’s believed by several scouts to be the best indicator of line skill. He displays great lateral movement due to superior footwork. It’s conceivable he is better than Mauigoa in the long run, but as they stand now Mauigoa would help the Cards more immediately. He’s another nasty guy but not as mean as Mauigoa. They’re different players but this guy should be a solid tackle for years.

Group Two could start in 2026 if a disaster occurred or if they were very fast learners. The group below is ordered by who could start the quickest.

Developmental Prospects

Proctor
might be the physically most impressive player. His athleticism is top tier. He likely is the most ready to play if pressed into service at LT. He’s one of those players who’s gotten by on natural talent rather than technique development. For example, he is not a good second level blocker yet. He is a rock solid anchor. Proctor is also an exceptional first level, run blocker with a punch that has unbalanced numerous rushers. He takes pride in staying on targets until the whistle. He’s also in this group because he struggles to laterally redirect. He gets beat in the B gap sometimes because of this. Additionally he needs to get in better shape because he wears down. The other Cardinal concern is he’s only played LT and my understanding is that’s all he wants to play. So, he’s not a good fit. Even if he’d be happy at RT, his lack of experience there might present issues. I’d go with Lomu even though he’s also only a LT.

Lomu has the best lateral quickness in this group. His footwork is outstanding. He has great composure and is able to adjust to agile rushers and complex attack schemes. Like most of these guys he’s very smart. He’s the most agile puller in this group with a great first step. He’s also the best at executing cross blocks and traps. While he’s only played LT, he is so athletic he can master the transition. Only a 2 year player, he has tons of upside. Lomu does need to add weight and power. He could be ready to play regularly by midseason, potentially playing at a high level for a rookie.

Miller is easily the most experienced RT in the pool. He played 3,778 snaps, virtually all at RT. He’s seen most everything. Of this group he’d be the most able rookie starter by midseason. He wouldn’t star, but he wouldn’t embarrass himself. He’s tough and never quits on a play. Miller is the ultimate teammate. If uncovered he always moves to assist others. He’s a decent puller who can hit on the move. He needs to increase his power more than the others in this group. He can be overly aggressive and get himself off balance. The top defenders will school him, but he should adjust. He’s very sound as a pass blocker as he mirrors with precision despite schemes. He’s been astonishingly durable. The type of guy who could play solidly for 10 years.

Freeling has played both RT & LT. he’s the best athlete of this group. This guy had amazing holding avoidance in college being flagged for it only once when starting. His current strength is in pass protection. He’s has excellent balance and reach. This guy looks a little better statistically than he played, but he’s all upside due to inexperience. He should reflect better technique by now, but still should develop albeit perhaps slowly. It may take patience. Some have him rated second in this pool. I have him fourth. He doesn’t have the nastiness I like. I really wouldn’t start him immediately. He could be easily ruined and with limited college starts his durability is untested.

Longer Term Developmental Prospects

Iheanachor
has a way to go before I’d start him. Virtually all of his experience is at RT. Many a player at his level has been broken by being forced to start regularly too soon. Give him time to develop and you should get a good player. If you start him early he’ll likely be a flag fest. He struggles sometimes with leverage and hand placement. He does have quick hands, so it’s technique and experience. He also has excellent footwork and is hard to just blow by. He’s best as a pass blocker but needs a lot of work on run blocking. He needs to pull smoother and be more effective hitting people on the move. He often gets contact but not impact. This is the kind of guy Wilkinson could allow to develop. He does have the mean gene.

Tiernan is a guard in my estimation, but could also be useful as a swing tackle for brief periods. He’s played LT & RT decently. Pass protection is his best skill and he anchors decently. Though short arms cause difficulty with speed rushers. He has leadership skills and was good at identifying stunts and blitzes. He has a super work ethic, but needs to get meaner. He lacks leg strength and too often gets tied up by defenders.

There are a few other guys being mentioned. Two are top heavy 6’9” guys who need tons of development and even then becoming a starter is highly questionable. The other guys are most likely going to end up being guards IMO. Coming attractions: 2027 QBs.
 

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This is not an unusually strong pool of OTs. So why all the OT talk? The interest has 3 primary causes; need, free agency and injury. Several teams are like the Cards. They don’t have an established starter with whom they are wholly confident. Looking at the Cards, Wilkinson would be the starter if the season began today. He’s viewed as more of a placeholder than a quality starter. I believe he was acquired to play if the Cards ended up selecting a developmental RT who shouldn’t start immediately. Teams like the Pack lost a starter in free agency. Some teams have starters who are already damaged. Plus with 17 games now it’s almost a certainty at least one tackle will miss one or more games.

This class breaks down into 3 groups. The first group is likely immediate, secure starters. This is not to say they don’t have issues. Rather it means they have enough skills to start without hurting their team dramatically or ruining their confidence. I put only 2 players in this category.

Starters

Mauigoa
is the top player on most lists. He’s aggressive and loves to hit people. He’s already a useful run blocker. He’s agile enough that by adding strength, he should become a dominant drive blocker. He’s decent at pass blocking, but figures to be challenged by speed rushers attacking him outside. He’s a solid fit for the Cards, but not a certain Pro Bowler. Additionally he’s an exceptional anchor. Bull rushers will not get passed him. He’ll remind old time Cards’ fans of the mean guys who once populated the line. He still needs work on mirroring and hand placement. Mauigoa is much more athletic than most think. He’s a very safe pick.

Fano is rated by some as the top tackle. He’s played LT and RT, but looks much better at RT. His admirers tout his balanced competency between run and pass blocking. At the moment he lacks the strength to fully control top power rushers and while agile is not the rushing force Mauigoa is. If you’re a combine fan he topped the tackles in the 3 cone drill. It’s believed by several scouts to be the best indicator of line skill. He displays great lateral movement due to superior footwork. It’s conceivable he is better than Mauigoa in the long run, but as they stand now Mauigoa would help the Cards more immediately. He’s another nasty guy but not as mean as Mauigoa. They’re different players but this guy should be a solid tackle for years.

Group Two could start in 2026 if a disaster occurred or if they were very fast learners. The group below is ordered by who could start the quickest.

Developmental Prospects

Proctor
might be the physically most impressive player. His athleticism is top tier. He likely is the most ready to play if pressed into service at LT. He’s one of those players who’s gotten by on natural talent rather than technique development. For example, he is not a good second level blocker yet. He is a rock solid anchor. Proctor is also an exceptional first level, run blocker with a punch that has unbalanced numerous rushers. He takes pride in staying on targets until the whistle. He’s also in this group because he struggles to laterally redirect. He gets beat in the B gap sometimes because of this. Additionally he needs to get in better shape because he wears down. The other Cardinal concern is he’s only played LT and my understanding is that’s all he wants to play. So, he’s not a good fit. Even if he’d be happy at RT, his lack of experience there might present issues. I’d go with Lomu even though he’s also only a LT.

Lomu has the best lateral quickness in this group. His footwork is outstanding. He has great composure and is able to adjust to agile rushers and complex attack schemes. Like most of these guys he’s very smart. He’s the most agile puller in this group with a great first step. He’s also the best at executing cross blocks and traps. While he’s only played LT, he is so athletic he can master the transition. Only a 2 year player, he has tons of upside. Lomu does need to add weight and power. He could be ready to play regularly by midseason, potentially playing at a high level for a rookie.

Miller is easily the most experienced RT in the pool. He played 3,778 snaps, virtually all at RT. He’s seen most everything. Of this group he’d be the most able rookie starter by midseason. He wouldn’t star, but he wouldn’t embarrass himself. He’s tough and never quits on a play. Miller is the ultimate teammate. If uncovered he always moves to assist others. He’s a decent puller who can hit on the move. He needs to increase his power more than the others in this group. He can be overly aggressive and get himself off balance. The top defenders will school him, but he should adjust. He’s very sound as a pass blocker as he mirrors with precision despite schemes. He’s been astonishingly durable. The type of guy who could play solidly for 10 years.

Freeling has played both RT & LT. he’s the best athlete of this group. This guy had amazing holding avoidance in college being flagged for it only once when starting. His current strength is in pass protection. He’s has excellent balance and reach. This guy looks a little better statistically than he played, but he’s all upside due to inexperience. He should reflect better technique by now, but still should develop albeit perhaps slowly. It may take patience. Some have him rated second in this pool. I have him fourth. He doesn’t have the nastiness I like. I really wouldn’t start him immediately. He could be easily ruined and with limited college starts his durability is untested.

Longer Term Developmental Prospects

Iheanachor
has a way to go before I’d start him. Virtually all of his experience is at RT. Many a player at his level has been broken by being forced to start regularly too soon. Give him time to develop and you should get a good player. If you start him early he’ll likely be a flag fest. He struggles sometimes with leverage and hand placement. He does have quick hands, so it’s technique and experience. He also has excellent footwork and is hard to just blow by. He’s best as a pass blocker but needs a lot of work on run blocking. He needs to pull smoother and be more effective hitting people on the move. He often gets contact but not impact. This is the kind of guy Wilkinson could allow to develop. He does have the mean gene.

Tiernan is a guard in my estimation, but could also be useful as a swing tackle for brief periods. He’s played LT & RT decently. Pass protection is his best skill and he anchors decently. Though short arms cause difficulty with speed rushers. He has leadership skills and was good at identifying stunts and blitzes. He has a super work ethic, but needs to get meaner. He lacks leg strength and too often gets tied up by defenders.

There are a few other guys being mentioned. Two are top heavy 6’9” guys who need tons of development and even then becoming a starter is highly questionable. The other guys are most likely going to end up being guards IMO. Coming attractions: 2027 QBs.
Have you heard anything about Christian Jones?
Last year was his 3rd year as well as his age 25 season. I expected to see an uptick..
But an ankle injury in pre season kept him out till mid December and we were past the disaster point by then.
I'm curious if Wilkinson wasn't brought in as insurance/competition for Jones
 

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It's always tough to say but a large drop off at premium positions can start a run.
There is usually a small run on tackles in the first but it flames out as value builds at other positions.
I think WR will start to win out over OT pretty quickly in round 1....always line shortages,...but an immediate WR2 will outweigh a developmental RT pretty quick for a lot of teams.
 

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There is usually a small run on tackles in the first but it flames out as value builds at other positions.
I think WR will start to win out over OT pretty quickly in round 1....always line shortages,...but an immediate WR2 will outweigh a developmental RT pretty quick for a lot of teams.
Just my opinion...I think you might see Tate and Tyson go a bit higher and then a run on OL as you see teams feel there is less separation between WR3 and WR11 and then WR12 vs OT2 and OT7 or OT8 (depending on how you view Tiernan) and then OT9.
 

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Iheanachor has some buzz around him after the senior bowl, plus it’s always nice to draft out of ASU. IDK if he’d be there in the 3rd but I’d take a flyer on him.
 

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I think going OT at 3 is ok with me. You could trade back but not too far, maybe stay at 5 or 6 at worst or you risk missing one of the two worth it that high. I have no control over that so if we stay at 3 just get the OT. I have thought about Allar vs Simpson a lot, I hope Mike L understands the value of Staffords arm, because running that offense like everyone else runs it, puts you back in the pack if you can move the entire thing upfield ten more yards cause you have a huge oline, running a hybrid type zone blocking scheme, and huge durable qb, that gives you the .3 to .5 more time you need to dominate the league, using nothing more than progressions and tendency breakers to deliver the ball where those other clones of your offense can't do it. Imagine Trey M with 5000 more square feet of grass to work with on every play? MHJ is born for those deeper timing routes IMO, he will feast all day long, or he can slog them at 12 yards like everyone else.
 

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He is likely going in round 1.
I agree. I don’t think he’s round 1 talent, but this is very possible in such a weird year for prospects. We could easily see a run on tackles early. No one likes their offensive lines. If you go on any team sub on Reddit there are threads for basically every team complaining about their OL.
 

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I agree. I don’t think he’s round 1 talent, but this is very possible in such a weird year for prospects. We could easily see a run on tackles early. No one likes their offensive lines. If you go on any team sub on Reddit there are threads for basically every team complaining about their OL.
I think he is a round 1 talent but I get your point.
 
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Simpson would cost a round 1 pick. So if he fails that’s a loss. I think he’s worth the risk. If he fails the team’s likely a 2027 draft position would probably allow them to get another bite of the apple. I’ll post some 2027 QB stuff this weekend.
 

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How many drafts have we seen players just emerge? Same goes with so many bust so what we are looking to make it through the pecking order for something to become in fruitation.

If the Cardinals think Simpson is the guy then go get him but hoping he will fall doesn't make too much sense.
 

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I like Miller and Proctor both a lot. Maybe my two favorites (outside of Mauigoa, who I don't want at 3 and no chance lasts into the second). I doubt Miller or Proctor do either, but at least there's a chance.
 

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How many drafts have we seen players just emerge? Same goes with so many bust so what we are looking to make it through the pecking order for something to become in fruitation.

If the Cardinals think Simpson is the guy then go get him but hoping he will fall doesn't make too much sense.
Agreed. If you really think he's your franchise QB and a pro bowl caliber player, you better draft him before someone else does.

Unless you're wrong. Then you reached.

I love the draft :biglaugh:
 
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I like Miller and Proctor both a lot. Maybe my two favorites (outside of Mauigoa, who I don't want at 3 and no chance lasts into the second). I doubt Miller or Proctor do either, but at least there's a chance.
What do you say if Proctor says he only plays LT?
 

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What do you say if Proctor says he only plays LT?
You find that out ahead of time and either move him off of the board, or call his bluff and watch him lose millions.

I wouldn't want a player that does that anyway.
 

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An interesting draft tidbit, via
@AdamSchefter
: Miami OL Francis Mauigoa has a herniated disc in his back that is considered asymptomatic.

Even with the injury, he’s expected to be the first OL off the board, but if the injury worsens, Mauigoa could miss upwards of three months.
 

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