OT: Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

[Weenus O'Baggins]

Kyler Murray played his last snap for this franchise against the Tennessee Titans.

He looked so pissed when we lost that game I was like "he's done".

This doesn't absolve him from his part in that loss but I am sure he is tired of being the punching bag.

 

[Mulli]

He looked so pissed when we lost that game I was like "he's done".

This doesn't absolve him from his part in that loss but I am sure he is tired of being the punching bag.

And, right or wrong, Kyler has to be done listening to or working with the idiot coaching staff who don’t seem to know a lot

 

[swagron]

And, right or wrong, Kyler has to be done listening to or working with the idiot coaching staff who don’t seem to know a lot

I think the coaching staff feels the same.

 

[Mulli]

I think the coaching staff feels the same.

Does Kyler have more career wins?

 

[SoonerLou]

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[Cheesebeef]

Kyler is Eric Bledsoe right now. All we are missing is a I don't want to be here social media post attributed to a salon.

Man… when they tried to play that off being in a salon. those were some comically dark days.

 

[kerouac9]

I think there is a kind of snake-oil salesman GM maybe HC but I doubt it who would whisper that he could save Michael $50 million and embarrassment in front of his family.

 

[kerouac9]

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Kyler was definitely third-screening the game while playing CoD with CeeDee and Hollywood

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

The fact even this pissed off fan base is like "well maybe" hopefully means we get like a 3 for Kyler instead of a cut

 

[slanidrac16]

I get it but there have been a gazzilion post of Gannon sucks, Petzing sucks, the o -line sucks, the play calling suck, the in game decisions suck.

So if all those things were to exponentially improved then theoretically Murray could be serviceable?

I never wanted to be more wrong.

 

[kerouac9]

I get it but there have been a gazzilion post of Gannon sucks, Petzing sucks, the o -line sucks, the play calling suck, the in game decisions suck.

So if all those things were to exponentially improved then theoretically Murray could be serviceable?

I never wanted to be more wrong.

No. We had serviceable play. I don’t think Kyler Murray can be better than middle-third. Unless you’re going to put an Eagles-level roster around him (which takes a decade or more), you can’t win with him.

 

[BigRedMO]

My guess is when you take a beating one is never enough. Brissett 296 passing yards a game and the dwarf 192. Dwarf says not his responsibility to get ball to McBride or Harrison. I dont want the cancer even holding a clipboard. Dwarf looks at number one receiver then dumps it to RB or runs. Brissett goes through his progressions and will take a hit. That us why Wilson was not getting targets until Brissett. Bidwill wont pay three HCs.

Murray's shotgun RPO offense does not work in the NFL due to narrower hashmarks resulting in both sides of field being closer to same size and more strict enforcement of blockers being downfield on RPO.

 

[slanidrac16]

Bidwill has zero option in this. The coaching staff bet their jobs that K1 was the issue. Now the whole NFL knows that wasn’t the case. K1 will be a starter next year. BPB will never get another OC job and JG might be fired at the end of this season.

The Cards will continue to be ran by hillbillies out of Paradise Valley.

Well this staff started their regime with pew pew pew…Kyler’s the man. He’s everything and a can of corn.

 

[Mainstreet]

Kyler is Eric Bledsoe right now. All we are missing is a I don't want to be here social media post attributed to a salon.

An interesting comparison. I hadn't thought of this one.

 

[slanidrac16]

Excited to see Kyler win on a real team. Would love to see Budda leave as well. The Cardinals will never win.

Kyler, if traded isn’t going to a “ winning” team. He is not going to light up New York ( that city will eat him alive). The Titans? The Saints? The Browns?
We all know you can’t put the team on Kyler’s shoulders.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Kyler, if traded isn’t going to a “ winning” team. He is not going to light up New York ( that city will eat him alive). The Titans? The Saints? The Browns?
We all know you can’t put the team on Kyler’s shoulders.

Eh… the Vikings might follow our lead and dump McCarthy like we did Rosen for.. the same QB… Kyler Murray come on down!

I could see him being moderately successful there for a year or two.

 

[GeorgiaCard88]

Dude we need to cut bait with everyone above. There is no one piece in the Kyler, petzing, Gannon, offensive line (not named PJ jr) that is to blame in isolation. They are all to blame and keeping any piece of it is going to hamper us going forward

 

[slanidrac16]

Dude we need to cut bait with everyone above. There is no one piece in the Kyler, petzing, Gannon, offensive line (not named PJ jr) that is to blame in isolation. They are all to blame and keeping any piece of it is going to hamper us going forward

I don’t disagree. I’m just looking at Bidwill, cap ramifications, paying another coaching staff and wonder.

 

[oaken1]

I get it but there have been a gazzilion post of Gannon sucks, Petzing sucks, the o -line sucks, the play calling suck, the in game decisions suck.

So if all those things were to exponentially improved then theoretically Murray could be serviceable?

I never wanted to be more wrong.

consider the source

 

[slanidrac16]

consider the source

Which sorce?

 

[PJ1]

What quality coach would agree to come here and be stuck with KM. We could get someone but I seriously doubt it would be anyone you would want.

 

[slanidrac16]

What quality coach would agree to come here and be stuck with KM. We could get someone but I seriously doubt it would be anyone you would want.

This is the Cardinals. Who said anything about quality. More likely the special team coach from Northern Illinois.

 

[oaken1]

Which sorce?

The gazillion posts

 

[Phrazbit]

We're eating that contract regardless.

That idiotic extension by Kiem...

I don't think coaches were interested in trying to fix Kyler 3 years ago, currently I think that notion is preposterous.

And if some coach DOES show up in Bidwill's office, thinking that he can turn Kyler into a title caliber QB, worthy of what he's being paid, then I really don't want to hire that guy because he's either a snake oil salesman or a fool.

 

[TJ]

He looked so pissed when we lost that game I was like "he's done".

This doesn't absolve him from his part in that loss but I am sure he is tired of being the punching bag.

If he thinks it’s bad here, imagine if he were to go somewhere like the Steelers or the Jets where the media would eat him for breakfast