Wow. What Joe Thomas said.

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  1. Ouchie-Z-Clown

    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    Yes, we should keep discounting professionals opinions and believe K9 instead you fools! Why believe joe Thomas and an actual playing offensive lineman who is now familiar with the actual offense?
     
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    The point is, they're well regarded enough that an NFL team took a chance on them, against many other players. Sure, they're not necessarily going to be starting NFL players, but it's clear they did enough to be highly regarded.
     
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    Krangthebrain Captain of Team Murray

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    It's funny that he faults Murray for this but when I threw out all the really good players Luck played with a Stanford he shrugged it off.

    It wouldnt surprise me if NONE of Murray's teammates amount to anything in the NFL. When you go back and look at draft classes 4-5 years later most of the players are out of the NFL.
     
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    I’m still waiting for all that positive press about the Cards offseason you were just about to post.
     
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    You think Luck's talent at Stanford matched Murray's at Oklahoma? Lol.
     
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    Krangthebrain Captain of Team Murray

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    Uh there are like 8 NFL players on his offense. Go look at the roster...Luck had a ton of NFL talent around him.
     
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    Krangthebrain Captain of Team Murray

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    And I didn't say "matched"...

    #readingcomprehensionfail #yousuckatthisgame
     
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    Luck actively played in the NCAA for three years, so which year are we talking about?

    Kyler’s shared offensive talent was nuts.
    So what’s the point of bringing it up? Part of the concern with Murray is that the talent around him was so great that it’s hard to see how much he can elevate the game of lesser players.
     
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    Because Kerouac was comparing him to Luck.

    Luck didnt have to elevate talent either because his team was STACKED.
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    Regard lasts until the first snap of the regular season. Then it’s what have you done for me lately. So let’s not jump to calling them nfl players until they’ve actually proven it.
     
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  11. Ouchie-Z-Clown

    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    Haha, birthday weekend. I’ve been distracted. I’ll see if I can find time to post some.
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    This is where I struggle, Ouchie. No other team had this many linemen drafted. Regard is regard. Are they all going to be stars? No. Are they all going to be starters? No. Do they represent more drafted linemen than any other team? Yes.

    Many QBs get one or two draftees to protect them... not 4 out of 5. Pretending this isn't laudable for a college offensive line in the modern era is being intentionally ignorant. Do you think any of them were really poor to mediocre college offensive line players? Anyone that's getting horribly overrated, but was actually terrible, and Kyler masked their inability to play?

    Sando: "Compelling" means interesting, not successful. The article mentions a barren roster. As long as I'm on point and we're talking about those who are saying the Cardinals are wildly improved, this one doesn't hit the mark.

    Bowen: Yeah, this is Kyler's perfect fit. Does that article imply success for the Cards this season? Still no.

    Walter Football: A B+ grade on the draft we had, with the first pick of players, doesn't really say we're going to suddenly take the world by storm. We're a bad football team that had a pretty decent go of it, but that still isn't translating to wins.

    Bleacher Report: Ending your blurb with "This team needs all the help it can get" is not an endorsement of the team succeeding.

    None of your articles refute @kerouac9's ask. At best, they're: "This team is awful, but new guys have to fix it, right? Maybe?"
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    Or maybe they all look better because he elevated them? If joe Thomas (a likely HOF offensive lineman - just feel a lot of readers need that reminder) is correct in his statement that a mobile QB makes it easier on the oline, maybe they all got overdrafted due to his play elevating them.
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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