Why you fire Kingsbury now

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I'm willing to give him one more year if there are changes. Vance and Billy Davis have to go. Keim needs to go and there needs to be a legit OC brought in or promoted to challenge KK on GameDay.

Garcia and Pugh need to he upgraded. We can also move on from Humpries with minimal damage. I'm ok with Beachum sticking around.

We need a CB and DT in the draft, like bad!
How do you replace three OL starters in one off season??? Especially when you have a talent deficient receiver room, will need to pay your current or find a new EDGE guy, have a DL full of journeymen... even if you can find them, they wont be a cohesive unit in time to save KK and KMs jobs...
 

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How do you replace three OL starters in one off season??? Especially when you have a talent deficient receiver room, will need to pay your current or find a new EDGE guy, have a DL full of journeymen... even if you can find them, they wont be a cohesive unit in time to save KK and KMs jobs...
Wrong.. Kansas City has all 5 new starters on the Oline this year. Including 2 rookies.
 

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Not to mention.. the word cohesive and our Offensive line doesnt exist. Again, cut pugh, hump and hicks..we would have $50mm in cap this year.
 
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He can’t hand the ball off? ******** your spouting nonsense! Look Kyler played like crap but the game plan was ****** from the start, we did NOT even try to establish the run! When your midway thru the 2nd qtr before you attempt a running play with your STARTING RB you are not trying to run the ball! It makes KK even more negligent if they know that’s the winning formula but we totally ignore it and throw sideways passes or screens to back up TEs instead of trying to establish the run!
Our starting running back Edmonds got hurled back into our backfield in the only carry of the first 1/4! Just the fact that Conner is not the starter and made the pro bowl should get Kingsbury fired. Keim too For not dropping thors hammer on Kingsbury in private supervision.
16 running back carries to 32 passes doesn’t look as bad on the final stats, now does it! But we never established the run early all year. Feast or famine! with a pro bowl back up rub! I got the words, but ain’t allowed to say them.

against maybe the 2 best pass rushers in history, then the post game pressers, don’t know why we didn’t compete, have to look at the tape! Yea go look at it elsewhere, in another state, watch all you want, pee wee coaches know exactly why you didn’t compete.
 
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Wrong.. Kansas City has all 5 new starters on the Oline this year. Including 2 rookies.
Wrong? I never said it couldnt be done. I asked how. Wrong about what? The unit gelling and playing effectively together in its first year? I suppose. But Ill need more than anecdotal evidence from a team regularly in super bowl conversations for me to believe we could pull that off... Especially considering all our other needs.
 

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Wrong? I never said it couldnt be done. I asked how. Wrong about what? The unit gelling and playing effectively together in its first year? I suppose. But Ill need more than anecdotal evidence from a team regularly in super bowl conversations for me to believe we could pull that off... Especially considering all our other needs.
What's your point here pal? Our offensive line sucks! One of the worse in the league with Hudson being the only + lineman. I would rank a journeyman that is Beachum as the next serviceable player on our Oline (but definitely not a player that any team would be coveting as a starter if he were a Free Agent - that should tell you something). I don't know how many times it needs to be posted, but cut Pugh, Hump and Hicks and we have $50mm in cap with LIMITED dead money. The only direction this team has with draft capital available and that amount of cap room is up for the offensive line. It wouldn't take more than adding one more above average lineman to improve where we are at today. Completely doable with that cap and draft assets to overhaul the line completely if we wanted to. Fortunately, we could get by just replacing 3 starters in the Oline. We lose ABSOLUTELY nothing in continuity and linemen gelling from the stand point we are at right now.

KC over hauled their offensive line this past off-season with less cap, later drafting positions and far LESS offensive lineman existing on their roster. So again - what point are you getting at in your post?
 

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What's your point here pal? Our offensive line sucks! One of the worse in the league with Hudson being the only + lineman. I would rank a journeyman that is Beachum as the next serviceable player on our Oline (but definitely not a player that any team would be coveting as a starter if he were a Free Agent - that should tell you something). I don't know how many times it needs to be posted, but cut Pugh, Hump and Hicks and we have $50mm in cap with LIMITED dead money. The only direction this team has with draft capital available and that amount of cap room is up for the offensive line. It wouldn't take more than adding one more above average lineman to improve where we are at today. Completely doable with that cap and draft assets to overhaul the line completely if we wanted to. Fortunately, we could get by just replacing 3 starters in the Oline. We lose ABSOLUTELY nothing in continuity and linemen gelling from the stand point we are at right now.

KC over hauled their offensive line this past off-season with less cap, later drafting positions and far LESS offensive lineman existing on their roster. So again - what point are you getting at in your post?

The point is simple but you aren't listening. We don't have the resources you think we do.
 
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Zach Ertz, who played 12 games for the Cardinals after he was traded from the Philadelphia Eagles on Oct. 15, believes Kingsbury should retain his post and not change what he's been building.

“I think you’ve seen the progress the past three years, going from three wins before he got here to five wins, to eight wins to 11 wins,” Ertz said. “He’s so, so smart offensively, and I think he’s just continuing to get better, from what I’ve heard, in terms of leadership and just managing this football team. Each and every year it’s improved.

"And I think he’s one of the best offensive minds in this league. And he’s got a quarterback that’s perfect for him and his system, and they're gonna win a lot of games together."
 

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The point is simple but you aren't listening. We don't have the resources you think we do.
Um yes we do..easily $50mm and our draft picks? Again far more than what KC had last season. Lol man you have some hot takes that are not substantiated by any facts.
 
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Um yes we do..easily $50mm and our draft picks? Again far more than what KC had last season. Lol man you have some hot takes that are substantiated by any facts.
LOL. You are the one that is making outlandish claims.

Let's start with the easiest. How many successful offensive line draft picks has Keim drafted in his tenure? The answer to that is 1. Humphries in 2016. One in 6 years. Now you want him to draft one or more in this next year? Where is the track record? Why do you possibly think that this can happen?
 

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LOL. You are the one that is making outlandish claims.

Let's start with the easiest. How many successful offensive line draft picks has Keim drafted in his tenure? The answer to that is 1. Humphries in 2016. One in 6 years. Now you want him to draft one or more in this next year? Where is the track record? Why do you possibly think that this can happen?
You are absolutely right. Let’s do absolutely nothing. Stay status quo, continue to over pay Hump and Pugh because it makes zero sense to do any changes because we have failed to select and sign the right players in the past.. so let’s roll with our past bad roster mistakes and expect a different performance next year from the same crap offensive line. Let’s keep $31.5mm in cap tied up in sub par starters named Hump, Hicks and Pugh, because part of $31.5mm couldn’t get us even one player that is a more adequate starter than even one of those below average starters.

You are right amigo!
 

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You are absolutely right. Let’s do absolutely nothing. Stay status quo, continue to over pay Hump and Pugh because it makes zero sense to do any changes because we have failed to select and sign the right players in the past.. so let’s roll with our past bad roster mistakes and expect a different performance next year from the same crap offensive line. Let’s keep $31.5mm in cap tied up in sub par starters named Hump, Hicks and Pugh, because part of $31.5mm couldn’t get us even one player that is a more adequate starter than even one of those below average starters.

You are right amigo!
Yeah, that's what I said. LOL Feel free to take your ball and go home.
 
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