Who takes the bull by the horns? Cole or Shipley?

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  1. cardpa

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    I don't think it matters who starts as neither are all pro material and each has their own strengths and weaknesses. I see both as slightly below average centers.
     
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    Shipley will always be a little below average. Cole has potential to be above it. You keep playing Cole if it is a close battle IMO.
     
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    Yep if it is close then it's got to be Cole. Shipley has to really beat him or we are just being loyal to spite ourselves
     
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    I don’t even think Shipley makes this roster. He’s average at best imo & if he’s starting this offense will be worse off because of it.
     
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    You can’t just wish and hope guys into being good because we drafted them high. Cole was not very good. He may get better but he may not.

    Cole was not a bright spot, maybe he was relative to the rest of the line, but he wasn’t relative to the rest of the nfl.

    Personally I am really hoping Lamont gets a chance and succeeds.
     
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    I think the fact he played every snap and continued to get experience was a good thing. It's really not fair that he was playing with street free agents all around him.

    I don't think you can continuously give up on rookies and give them a one and done year to prove it. Guys take a while to "get it" all the time.
     
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    You dont unless the new guy is a huge upgrade.

    You know..like a QB who not only throws the ball better and more accurately, but is also one of the best college dual threats ever :p
     
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    I didn't realize KM has thrown the ball better and more accurately in the NFL than JR. I didn't realize KM has thrown even a single pass in the NFL yet. Huh.
     
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    FWIW I heard Shipley on Cover2 saying that he's been getting all the #1 reps so far.
     
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    I don't follow why if we have K2 at HC and Murray at QB you believe Kirk will have a short tenure? This offense is going to need Wr's and he's damn near perfect for what I think this offense is going to be. Right now it looks like we did well in the draft at WR but with 3 guys the odds are pretty good at most 2 of them become productive NFL WR's. If you hit 3 of 3 awesome but that would be unusual IMO when they're not all high picks.
     
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    IIRC Cole doesnt have alot of snapping experience, whereas Shipley does.
     
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    I don't think there is enough separation in talent to know yet. Experience is hard to replace and if it's otherwise equal, they'll probably go with Shipley because he has more of it.
     
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    I think that the opinion that Cole was good last year lacks significant evidence.

    I also think that the opinion that Shipley can only play center is mistaken. He played guard before he came here.
     
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    I would not want Shipley at guard... he lacks strength and his problem gets cloaked most when at center not facing a guy like Aaron Donald in my opinion
     
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    Don't get me wrong, I think Kirk is just swell. I'm really hoping we're going to keep him here for a long time, and he nails it.

    But we have 4 guys who are going to be vying for a contract all around the same time, and Isabella and Butler could define themselves as the top two on our team... they have the talent.
     

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