Who’s that bigger receiver...

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  1. DVontel

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    They can, but unless there’s medical problems, Ruggs will be the 3rd WR off the board(could be earlier) so that would be a major trade up. Reagor will most likely kill the combine so I doubt it he’ll fall to us, too. Justin Jefferson is who we should be looking at.
     
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    Kind of wondering what Reagor will do in the vertical jump
    Despite being just 5'11 he easily jump over defensive backs
     
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    I'd love to see it... but Larry's 10.7 yards per catch in 2019 was similar to his previous couple of years, and hasnt been higher since 2015 (11.1 in the Cardinals 13-3 season).

    At 10.7 yards per catch, Larry would need 94 catches to break 1000 yards. His 68.8% catch rate in 2019 was actually well above his careeer 60.9% rate, and highest since 2016. If he could duplicate that, he'd need 137 targets to make 94 catches. Thats 28 more targets (26%) than in 2019... on an offense where presumably other young WRs step up and take on bigger roles or a high draft pick has been added to the mix (or both).

    I just don't see it, unless somehow Larry's catch percentage hits a career high or his yards per catch drastically increases at age 37 - highly unlikely!

    ...dave
     
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    That's the crux of it. If he's to put up WR1 numbers he needs WR1 targets and he's not been getting them since BA left.

    15, 16 and 17 he had 145, 150 and 161 targets.

    The last 2 years he had 112 and 109.
     
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    I’ll say this.


    If we go Lamb at #8, no one else but Lucas Niang better be the pick at #41.
     
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    I guess we'll see I kind of think Reagor will go ahead of Ruggs. Ruggs is faster, Reagor is a better football player. Reagor has a lot of DeSean Jackson which is ironically who teams compare Ruggs to. Reagor is a good kick returner, Ruggs really hasn't done much of it because he doesn't catch punts well.

    hard to compare them totally different systems etc I just feel like Reagor will be the better player. Ruggs is awfully tempting he's just so fast.

    interestingly from what I found, Reagor's reported 40 time from school combines is actually faster than Ruggs but I expect Ruggs to run faster at the combine if they both run.
     
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    Reagor kind of does nothing better Ruggs.


    Ruggs is a:

    Better route runner

    Better hands

    Better catcher in traffic

    Better blocker

    Better frame

    I think he’s faster with the ball in his hands than Reagor is.




    Reagor is a bit twitchier, but that’s really it.
     
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    I'd be much better with Lamb or Jeudy at 12 vs 8. I'm Simmons or bust.
     
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    I think Reagor is a better player but it's hard to tell from last year because TCU had a freshman QB who was a much better runner than passer and so they became a running team. They barely threw for over 2000 yards last year which is why Reagor's stats were down so much.

    I'm not knocking Ruggs he is insanely fast, i read he averaged 9 yards after the catch this year, that's pretty ridiculous. But he's basically a guy who does 2 things well, those crossing patterns where he just outruns angles, or the balls upfield where he just outruns people. if you watch him against LSU or teams that have NFL type DB's, he struggles often, he can't get off the LOS clean, he just wasn't all that good against the kind of competition he'll see in the NFL. I would not be opposed to picking him later in the 1st round or if he somehow slipped, the 2nd, but I really am surprised people are projecting him as high as the 3rd receiver, I see him going to the Eagles as a very popular projection.

    He caught 98 passes in a year college career, yes they had lots of weapons but I think his catches were low because he's just limited on what he can do right now as a WR. He was a pretty good KOR, not close to what you might think given the speed. Longest return of his career was 40, PR's 2 years in a row that was a thing in the spring they were going to use Ruggs as a return guy to take advantage of his speed, both years they abandoned it because he struggles to track the ball in the air, 8 punt returns in his career, longest was 16 yards.

    Reagor had some issues on punt returns too, they put him there this year to get the ball in his hands more because the QB was so raw he was being wasted. He had 2 for TD's, one of them he dropped the punt, fumbled it around then picked it up and went house. I would assume NFL teams will see if he can return at the NFL level, TCU used him a bit on KOR but they didn't want him to get hurt so they limited them, I can see an NFL team using him more. He's more elusive, he is stronger with the ball despite being smaller than Ruggs. he too at times has trouble getting off the LOS and he's not a great route runner but IMO he can do more than Ruggs does in that regard.

    Reagors stock is down because of a down junior year and concerns that he showed visible frustration this year and people said lost concentration. Understandable with a freshman QB who was just not very good, Reagor didn't get the ball enough.

    Both guys are going to have big explosive plays, I just feel like Reagor is going to make more plays overall, Ruggs is faster but Reagor is going to put up a good 40 and probably a great vertical, he can really get up. He's got more wiggle, he is also incredible at acceleration, but both guys need to learn to run routes, both guys, especially Ruggs, waste lots of steps with their routes, that's actually one of the biggest knocks on both of them but from what I read and what I saw watching Ruggs at Alabama he's a guy who just outran people. Jerry Sullivan would help either one of them with the ability to run routes.
     
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    Reagor smaller?

    Reagor 5'10 5/8 weight 206 arm 31 3/8
    Ruggs 5'11 weight 188 arm 30 4/8

    Basically he has same height and almost 20 pounds heavier
     
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    I meant shorter but I hadn't realized Ruggs was 5'11 I thought he was 6 foot 1 but that's actually Jeudy. So same height and yeah Reagor is heavier and stronger, he's built a bit like a RB.
     
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    My son played with him at Baylor otherwise would't know that info.Said he is really strong. Imagine a 6' 3" guy with a 42" vert. Crazy.
     
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    Who did he have at QB?
     

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