What Could Life After Murray Look Like

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Obviously a new QB would be needed. Other than RT, the Cards are reasonably protected against major 2026 departures. This reflects a good job by Ossenfort in building depth. The Cards, however, have to be cautious because they will have potentially a concerning number of FA departures in 2027.

Looking at Murray, there will certainly be a market for him. In fact with the cost of competitive QBs skyrocketing and the supply limited, even a bad season will not likely severely impact Murray’s value. There are always teams that will believe they can fix any problem. A dual threat QB is hard to come by. Finally Murray’s salary by then would be classed as affordable and he’s controllable through 2028. He’s ranked 12th in cost per season.

What could the Cards get in return? I think they’d get a surprisingly good return. Consider a team like the Raiders or even Pittsburgh. Their fans haven’t had anything to cheer about in a long time. I know the Steelers are off the a great start, but suppose Rodgers gets injured or retires. There are several teams in a similar situation. There won’t be enough sure draft options to fix everyone, though it’s a decent QB draft. Plus some of these teams’ fans will want to win now and won’t wait for a draft pick. They don’t want a rookie. There will be competition for Murray. I think the Cards would get a first maybe even around pick 10, plus a second or third rounder if the round 1 pick is late in the round. I know that sounds like a great deal but what other veteran QBs are available? Two years ago when Murray’s salary cost was higher Colin Cowherd thought the Cards could get 2 number ones for Murray. Some would be genius QB whisperer will want him.

I think the Cards’ fans would be tolerant of going with a rookie. Also I think the defense will be strong enough that a QB wouldn’t be expected to win games on his own. The Cards could make it work with the right QB candidate. It’s too early to name my preferred choice. The cost? Certainly it’s possible the Cards get part of the the needed picks in the Murray deal. So they may have to surrender the acquired number one, their own number one and maybe their 2027 number one if the pick is top 10. This team has the depth to afford that. Much depends on their QB of choice.

As it stands now both the 2026 & 2027 drafts will offer potential starting QBs. If everyone comes out, 2026 in particular could be outstanding. That said, many of the preseason favorites have struggled to be dominant. There will be mid-first round QBs who will have interesting developmental potential. They might not be immediate starters, but with a year of experience some might be effective. There are an enticing number of QBs who will play in the NFL one day. If some stay in, 2027 could be deep as well. Brissett wisely is under contract for 2026 and I could see the Cards living with him as a 2026 starter to start the season. There’s also the possibility a decent veteran QB might be available.

There’s a lot of college football to be played. If I’m still functional I’ll get you some options later in the season. Rounds 2 & 3 will offer excellent WR options. It’s an extraordinarily deep pool. The Oline needs help. Considering free agents plus 3rd & 4th round choices there will be options at IOL. Even if the Cards give up the number ones, they have enough draft picks to fix some issues.

The RT replacement will likely be a free agent. The Cards will lose $20K+ of cap trading Murray, but they have tons of recoverable cap through cuts on unneeded players and restructuring, possibly around $40K. Then there’s a $20K+ likely cap increase.

Murray moving on will require a major adjustment. With a little good fortune the Cards can stuill be a playoff contender in 2027.
 

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If we can trade Murray, take that money and invest it in a OL and start Brissett. If we can draft a QB, great.
 

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I feel confident a 2nd and a future 4th is a reasonable expectation.

Thats all well and good until you see what a 2nd round through 4th round pick looks like for Monty. Will Johnson is the only decent player
 

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If we're moving on from Murray after this season, then we've probably had a 3rd losing season in a row under JG which would almost most certainly mean he's on the hot seat if not outright fired. Starting Brissett or a rookie quarterback would probably result in another losing season and I find it doubtful that JG would still be the head coach after 4 losing seasons in a row.

If we do move on from Murray, I'd prefer to replace him with a solid vet not Brissett or a rookie.
 

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if you’re talking about life after Murray on this board, I envision it as the movie, “The Purge - Parting the Red Sea”
 

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It’s deranged to think a team will give up a top 10 pick for Murray.

Life without him will look like the past two seasons. We should bring in Zach Wilson for the lolz.
Zach Wilson in Scottsdale would be like Deshaun Watson at a massage parlor
 

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Can you imagine if the Cardinals drafted Skattebo and Leavitt. The stadium would be electric.

Leavitt very much reminds me of Danny White.
Yes. Leavitt is a blast to watch. He reminds me a lot of Mayfield, in the best way possible because I like both their games. Same with Dart.

Too bad the timing wasn’t right because they had mojo workin and I would have loved to see that come together in the NFL somehow. Doubt NY is drafting a QB next year.
 

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Yes. Leavitt is a blast to watch. He reminds me a lot of Mayfield, in the best way possible because I like both their games. Same with Dart.

Too bad the timing wasn’t right because they had mojo workin and I would have loved to see that come together in the NFL somehow. Doubt NY is drafting a QB next year.

Sometimes a team has to make it work. With Conner out, it looks like Skattebo would have been a solid choice for the Cardinals, as he went in the 4th round.
 

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It could look bad. Very, very bad.
Generally I agree, but this is a year with a loaded QB draft, so if we are going to make a decision, it might be a good idea to know what plan the team has by the end of this season.

I'm hopeful we open up the offense and Kyler either completely dominates or absolutely fails. This middling nonsense is making me just want to punt, I want something definitive from him.
 

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Sometimes a team has to make it work. With Conner out, it looks like Skattebo would have been a solid choice for the Cardinals, as he went in the 4th round.
They may have selected him in the fourth had he still been there.
But regardless of Skat...we cannot knock or argue the selection of Jordan Burch with our third...the guy has already outplayed his draft position
 

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Generally I agree, but this is a year with a loaded QB draft, so if we are going to make a decision, it might be a good idea to know what plan the team has by the end of this season.

I'm hopeful we open up the offense and Kyler either completely dominates or absolutely fails. This middling nonsense is making me just want to punt, I want something definitive from him.
Right?
Sooner or later you gotta crap or get off the pot. This upcoming draft looks like a good time to make something happen
 

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And that’s just it.

3 outlier season in 37 years and people are expecting a different outcome.

Sign me up.

If the Org is the issue then nothing Kyler can do will fix it and you should be begging for him to be moved so that he can show his true talent elsewhere and prove you right all along.
 

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Generally I agree, but this is a year with a loaded QB draft, so if we are going to make a decision, it might be a good idea to know what plan the team has by the end of this season.

I'm hopeful we open up the offense and Kyler either completely dominates or absolutely fails. This middling nonsense is making me just want to punt, I want something definitive from him.

I'm not so sure it will be quite so loaded. I'd expect some of the options to return.
 

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I think people are dreaming on trade comp.

If Kyler is available it's because the Cardinals have had enough. It's not like they have a young option or there's someone available in FA next year, or they had a coaching/scheme change that made them open to a move. It will be because they are done with him. That lowers the value off the bat.

This will be a Baker Mayfield to the Panthers level trade which was a 5th that could become a 4th. Mayfield had a similar win percentage, and two playoff games, one of which he won. And was only 26.

At best you might get a 3rd like Carson Wentz or Teddy Bridgewater with a 5th or 6th going with Kyler the other way.
 

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I don't think Murray will bring much in trade value. But that's not the point. The point is to move on instead this wash, rinse, repeat cycle the Cards are on if they continue to stick with him.

People think, well, who can we get or will we be like the Browns and continually looking for a QB?

I say, look at the Broncos. They paid a fortune for Wilson in trade, gave him a huge contract, saw it wasn't going to work and moved on. Cap hit be damned.

They did all that and now are in a better situation, moving forward, at QB. You have to be willing to take chances and move on.

I even give Cleveland credit for trying. Watson was the guy they wanted and got him. It turned out to be a huge mistake but at least they tried.
 

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I'm less concerned about what they will look like, and more wondering what is Murray really adding at this point?

Unfortunately, I have no faith in this regime with QBs. No QB during their tenure ever improved, nor do they seem to have an eye for one. In fact, most seemed to regress. Drafted JAG Tune; hung onto a busted McCoy waaay too long; traded for Ridder; The Passtronaught. Ugh.
 

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Love ya, Harry, but ain't no way, shape, or form we're getting a 1st for KM, let alone more. I mean, that would be a great outcome, but I don't see it.

Also, you highlighted a problem with Monti's sloooow re-build--FA. I've said it since he got here, slow rebuilds aren't a thing because, by the time you're getting good (which we aren't even because of Monti--different subject), you're losing free agents.
 

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I don't think Murray will bring much in trade value. But that's not the point. The point is to move on instead this wash, rinse, repeat cycle the Cards are on if they continue to stick with him.

People think, well, who can we get or will we be like the Browns and continually looking for a QB?

I say, look at the Broncos. They paid a fortune for Wilson in trade, gave him a huge contract, saw it wasn't going to work and moved on. Cap hit be damned.

They did all that and now are in a better situation, moving forward, at QB. You have to be willing to take chances and move on.

I even give Cleveland credit for trying. Watson was the guy they wanted and got him. It turned out to be a huge mistake but at least they tried.
No risk it no biscuit....
Or.....
No riskit no biskit!!!
 
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