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Nah.Odunze would probably be WR1 in 7 of the last 8 classes
Nah.Odunze would probably be WR1 in 7 of the last 8 classes
I mean I'd definitely take Odunze overNah.
Nah.
I mean I'd definitely take Odunze over
2023: JSN
2022: Drake London
2020: Henry Ruggs
2019: Marquise Brown
2018: DJ Moore
2017: Corey Davis
2016: Corey Coleman
I would take Nabers over these guys as well.
I would have taken DJ Moore, Garrett Wilson, & Jameson Williams over Odunze. Just because the WRs you listed were drafted first doesn’t mean they were my WR1s from that class. That’s also not counting WRs from the same classes I would also take over Odunze.Other than Ja'Marr Chase which classes would he not be WR1 in since 2016?
Ditto Nabers and all the "actually, he's the best WR in this draft" talk. No guarantee for any of these guys.Odunze getting so much love here I almost scared dude won’t end up being a top 5 WR from this class, lol.
Nabers hasn’t been getting love here like Odunze unless you’re just speaking in general.Ditto Nabers and all the "actually, he's the best WR in this draft" talk. No guarantee for any of these guys.
Correct, in general. Just like I'm sure there are plenty here tired of hearing about MHJ. We each have our chosen target and preferences at WR and are getting on each other's nervesNabers hasn’t been getting love here like Odunze unless you’re just speaking in general.
I'm not judging the previous classes with the hindsight of how they did in the NFL, I'm judging them based off their college careers. Odunze/Naber are better prospects than guys like Moore and Wilson in my eyes. Both are more productive and have better traits.I would have taken DJ Moore, Garrett Wilson, & Jameson Williams over Odunze. Just because the WRs you listed were drafted first doesn’t mean they were my WR1s from that class. That’s also not counting WRs from the same classes I would also take over Odunze.
I also don’t know what you mean “would take Nabers over these guys as well” considering Nabers is a better prospect than Odunze, lol.
I’m not either. What’s the point of this post?I'm not judging the previous classes with the hindsight of how they did in the NFL
Disagree.better traits.
And it’s based off of my judgement, which only matters to me.based off the judgement of actual NFL GMs.
Nabers isn’t my favorite college player. I have no resentment or ill-will towards Odunze.since your hostility towards Odunze as a prospect appears to be based off of resentment that he's more popular here than your college favorite, Nabers.
Yeah this is absurd. Odunze is significantly better than any of those guys coming out.I would have taken DJ Moore, Garrett Wilson, & Jameson Williams over Odunze.
You're on an island here.Just because the WRs you listed were drafted first doesn’t mean they were my WR1s from that class. That’s also not counting WRs from the same classes I would also take over Odunze.
Nabers is a crazy good slot prospect, but he wasn't nearly effective when he played the X position. He he's much worse at the catch point too, and it's not even debatable.I also don’t know what you mean “would take Nabers over these guys as well” considering Nabers is a better prospect than Odunze, lol.
Wow, it’s almost like I don’t believe that & it’s my opinion.Yeah this is absurd. Odunze is significantly better than any of those guys coming out.
And?You're on an island here.
Probably because Nabers has the ability & explosiveness to consistently get open & not have to worry about jump-balls as nearly as much as Odunze because Odunze doesn’t possess those same traits Nabers has. This is going up against the Terrion Arnold, Kool-Aid McKinstry, & Ennis Rakestraws of the world. It’s a bit alarming the “catch point” is the only thing you’re hanging your hat on against both Nabers & MHJ.He he's much worse at the catch point too, and it's not even debatable.
Total ignorance. Odunze didn't rely on jump balls.Wow, it’s almost like I don’t believe that & it’s my opinion.
And?
Probably because Nabers has the ability & explosiveness to consistently get open & not have to worry about jump-balls as nearly as much as Odunze because Odunze doesn’t possess those same traits Nabers has.
In the slot? I see a lot of reps against safeties and other defenders not #1 corners. Another concern is that Nabers isn't a particularly good route runner, he's just explosive enough that even simple moves can get him wide open.This is going up against the Terrion Arnold, Kool-Aid McKinstry, & Ennis Rakestraws of the world. It’s a bit alarming the “catch point” is the only thing you’re hanging your hat on against both Nabers & MHJ.
Calm down people geez
I clearly didn’t say he relied on them.Odunze didn't rely on jump balls.
You already said this about two months ago & I been responded to it. Next up.It's hilarious reading you bash Ceedee Lamb years ago for not facing much press man and then to see you give Nabers a pass. Nabers running wide open against off coverage all day makes me concerned that he might just struggle against it in the NFL...which we have some film of because in week one LSU trotter Nabers out at X and they quickly moved him because he was good, but not great against it.
Then you’re not actually watching the film.I see a lot of reps against safeties and other defenders not #1 corners.
This is new.Another concern is that Nabers isn't a particularly good route runner
Speaks a lot about a prospect if they can consistently get wide open just by doing simple moves.even simple moves can get him wide open.
He’s a great prospect, he just isn’t better than the guys I listed earlier.He's a complete player
This is like your 12th time saying this.Nabers would be considered below average at the catch point since he only caught 45% on contested catches while Odunze caught 75%
You said that Nabers "doesn't have to rely on them nearly as much" which implies that he relies on them to a high extent which really isn't the case if you did more than even a cursory investigation into both prospects.I clearly didn’t say he relied on them.
Eh it wasn't. You glossed over and didn't really have a compelling argument on how this situation was different.You already said this about two months ago & I been responded to it. Next up.
I have. I see a lot of free releases against slot defenders (slot corners, linebackers, and safeties).Then you’re not actually watching the film.
Even the best route runners in college are merely ok in the NFL. Nabers wouldn't be called a great route runner.This is new.
Absolutely. He's that explosive, which is why he's a phenomenal prospect, he's just not great at everything, but great at a few things.Speaks a lot about a prospect if they can consistently get wide open just by doing simple moves.
DJ Moore was a late first rounder.He’s a great prospect, he just isn’t better than the guys I listed earlier.
And a point that irrefutable. Odunze is just more versatile. He's not as explosive as Nabers. Explosive isn't everything though. Sometimes it's good to have a power forward who can physically dominate the corner rather than rely on just speed alone.This is like your 12th time saying this.
Now you altering your own words around. Went from saying I belive Odunze only relies on jumpballs to now doing it at a high extent. When in reality, I clearly stated Nabers doesn’t have to worry about it as much when he’s compared to Rome.You said that Nabers "doesn't have to rely on them nearly as much" which implies that he relies on them to a high extent which really isn't the case if you did more than even a cursory investigation into both prospects.
Eh, if you fail to comprehend then I can’t help you there.Eh it wasn't. You glossed over and didn't really have a compelling argument on how this situation was different.
Add “anti” before SEC & it would apply to you.but it calls into question about your inherent SEC bias.
Then you’re not actually watching film if you seen a lot of those.I have. I see a lot of free releases against slot defenders (slot corners, linebackers, and safeties).
Not to DVontel.Odunze is 100% better than Garrett Wilson.
Because you can’t come up with another triumph-card that Rome posses over Nabers.And a point that irrefutable
Isaiah Simmons was versatile, too. I would rather have the higher ability than the more versatility.Odunze is just more versatile
It’s not everything, but it’s what separates the greats from the goods.Explosive isn't everything though
My favorite is watching the two of you try to tear down the other receiver bc he’s not your fav.Total ignorance. Odunze didn't rely on jump balls.
It's hilarious reading you bash Ceedee Lamb years ago for not facing much press man and then to see you give Nabers a pass. Nabers running wide open against off coverage all day makes me concerned that he might just struggle against it in the NFL...which we have some film of because in week one LSU trotter Nabers out at X and they quickly moved him because he was good, but not great against it.
In the slot? I see a lot of reps against safeties and other defenders not #1 corners. Another concern is that Nabers isn't a particularly good route runner, he's just explosive enough that even simple moves can get him wide open.
And I don't have to hang my hat on the catch point because Odunze has tons of snaps where he got wide open too. He's a complete player..he's just a lot better than Nabers at the catch point and it isn't really close.
Nabers would be considered below average at the catch point since he only caught 45% on contested catches while Odunze caught 75%.
I like Nabers, but I don't think he's the god's gift.My favorite is watching the two of you try to tear down the other receiver bc he’s not your fav.
Semantics.Now you altering your own words around. Went from saying I belive Odunze only relies on jumpballs to now doing it at a high extent. When in reality, I clearly stated Nabers doesn’t have to worry about it as much when he’s compared to Rome.
Ok bud.Eh, if you fail to comprehend then I can’t help you there.
I like plenty of SEC players, I'm just not beholden to the SEC. Silly.Add “anti” before SEC & it would apply to you.
I've seen it.Then you’re not actually watching film if you seen a lot of those.
Cool story. You're on an island. No credible scout I've seen agrees with you.Not to DVontel.
Size.Because you can’t come up with another triumph-card that Rome posses over Nabers.
Clown shoe argument. We're talking versatility within a single position (wide receiver). Stay on topic please.Isaiah Simmons was versatile, too. I would rather have the higher ability than the more versatility.
Henry Riggs was plenty explosive too. So way Darius Heyward Bey. I can mention dozens of receivers that their best trait was explosive that sucked.It’s not everything, but it’s what separates the greats from the goods.
Lmao, Jesus Christ, you legitimately had to not watch a snap of that game or you have awful memory. You can go on YouTube & type in Malik Nabers vs Kool-Aid & when in fact, it shows McKinstry lined up against Nabers. Crazy, right?You say nonsense like McKinstry matched up with him when McKinstry had virtually no slot snaps. LOL
You going to keep repeating this?You're on an island
Lol @ there being a difference between the two. You had to reach hard for this one.Catch radius.
Adjusting to poorly thrown balls.
Oh really? You know Malik Nabers & Rome Odunze personally?He's also a better person.
Damn, it’s almost like I used an example & followed it up with a statement that was on topic. Of course, you have an hilarious habit of reaching.We're talking versatility within a single position (wide receiver). Stay on topic please.
Lmao good Lord dawg, when did I say it was not? Why do you love reaching for something that isn’t there so much? Man.Nabers is certainly a lot better than those guys, but there is a lot more to playing receiver than being explosive.
I would have taken DJ Moore, Garrett Wilson, & Jameson Williams over Odunze. Just because the WRs you listed were drafted first doesn’t mean they were my WR1s from that class. That’s also not counting WRs from the same classes I would also take over Odunze.
I also don’t know what you mean “would take Nabers over these guys as well” considering Nabers is a better prospect than Odunze, lol.
Ditto Nabers and all the "actually, he's the best WR in this draft" talk. No guarantee for any of these guys.