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While a LS only play 8 snaps a game, they perfection in two very types of snaps has to he so pin point accurate thst includes the perfect sin so the laces land a certain way. These guys earn their money for sure!


The long snapper is far from a “pick and plug” position, as it requires a specialized individual in the case of almost every team at higher levels of the game. In the NFL, each team has a spot reserved for this position, even as they are forced to carry a limited 53-man roster on a weekly basis.

On extra points and field goals, their job is to snap it back to the holder in the blink of an eye with pinpoint accuracy – giving the kicker plenty of time as the onslaught of the defense looks to get a hand on the kick.

With this, it should be noted the perfection and minimal room for error associated with this job. Holders are on a knee, with little mobility to catch a wayward snap, which therefore demands a snap within the frame of their body that they can catch and get down in a hurry for the kicker. The best long snappers in the business are known for their consistent spin that allows holders ease in catching and placing the snap efficiently, without having to turn or adjust the football.

On punts, their job is arguably a bit more tricky, as their duty is to snap the ball to the punter standing around 15 yards away. An on target snap is crucial, as punters tend to take 3 steps to gather themselves before punting the football. A crisp snap simply leads to a better chance for solid protection, and quality punt.

Added with this, is their job to cover the punt, and pursue downfield after snapping the football. Due to this, a long snappers athleticism and toughness is evaluated as NFL teams look to fill the spot on their roster for the position. Long snappers must be able to snap with focus in the trenches, as well as having the ability to mix it up with more athletic players, and make the occasional tackle as they cover downfield.

 

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253 x 8 = 2024

That was my point though.

Dude earned $14m as a long snapper for playing the equivalent of 2 full seasons, and this is in old money.

Vet min Long Snappers get paid the equivalent $10,000 per snap. That's the equivalent of $10m for a regular starter, and them having to tackle or take a hit is as rare as hens teeth (Aaron Brewer has 17 career tackles in 12 seasons).

Easiest job in football by a million miles.
 
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While a LS only play 8 snaps a game, they perfection in two very types of snaps has to he so pin point accurate thst includes the perfect sin so the laces land a certain way. These guys earn their money for sure!







This is like if Walter wrote a guide to Long Snappers.

Yes, they have to be consistently perfect at 2 things. A regular player has to be consistently perfect, or at least try to be, at 100 different things, while getting hit by 250-300lb guys for 60 snaps a game.

The mental and physical load on a regular player doesn't compare. Long snapping is a walk in the park by comparison.

When a linebacker walks off the field he has to go through kryo, massages, rest for 2 days etc etc. When a long snapper walks off the field he can get changed, hit the gym, run 5k and take his kids to the park.
 

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This is like if Walter wrote a guide to Long Snappers.

Yes, they have to be consistently perfect at 2 things. A regular player has to be consistently perfect, or at least try to be, at 100 different things, while getting hit by 250-300lb guys for 60 snaps a game.

The mental and physical load on a regular player doesn't compare. Long snapping is a walk in the park by comparison.

When a linebacker walks off the field he has to go through kryo, massages, rest for 2 days etc etc. When a long snapper walks off the field he can get changed, hit the gym, run 5k and take his kids to the park.
as in the business world, they are paid according to their value not necessarily what an outsider thinks

The results of not being perfect will produce a really bad situation for their team.

I add hitting the gym and the 5k run relieves their stress of having to be perfect as they get zero help on the field while executing their job.
 

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That was my point though.

Dude earned $14m as a long snapper for playing the equivalent of 2 full seasons, and this is in old money.

Vet min Long Snappers get paid the equivalent $10,000 per snap. That's the equivalent of $10m for a regular starter, and them having to tackle or take a hit is as rare as hens teeth (Aaron Brewer has 17 career tackles in 12 seasons).

Easiest job in football by a million miles.

Have you ever heard of punters?

Unlike snappers, punters don't need to be perfect to have long, successful, lucrative careers.
 

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as in the business world, they are paid according to their value not necessarily what an outsider thinks

The results of not being perfect will produce a really bad situation for their team.

I add hitting the gym and the 5k run relieves their stress of having to be perfect as they get zero help on the field while executing their job.

They are not paid according to their value.

The NFL sets a vet min salary that covers all players no matter how many snaps they play. Someone like Zay Jones will get about $4000 per snap if he plays 500 snaps.

If Evan Brown starts at LG and plays 1000 snaps he will get paid about $2300 per snap. Aaron Brewer will get paid around $10,000 per snap and he's a middling long snapper. He's the Evan Brown of Long Snappers.

Long snappers are guaranteed to get way above their value by the vet min and cap relief.

It's fine, it is what it is, I just don't want to pretend it's a tough position. It's by far the easiest and most overpaid position on a team.
 

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They are not paid according to their value.

The NFL sets a vet min salary that covers all players no matter how many snaps they play. Someone like Zay Jones will get about $4000 per snap if he plays 500 snaps.

If Evan Brown starts at LG and plays 1000 snaps he will get paid about $2300 per snap. Aaron Brewer will get paid around $10,000 per snap and he's a middling long snapper. He's the Evan Brown of Long Snappers.

Long snappers are guaranteed to get way above their value by the vet min and cap relief.

It's fine, it is what it is, I just don't want to pretend it's a tough position. It's by far the easiest and most overpaid position on a team.
If Evan Brown messes up, it might just result in a holding penalty or a QB pressure. If a longsnapper messes up, it is a guaranteed disaster costing the team points or at least possession of the ball.
 

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Have you ever heard of punters?

Unlike snappers, punters don't need to be perfect to have long, successful, lucrative careers.

Punting is the 2nd easiest job after LS, but still far more difficult.

You have to catch, position and punt with enough height and distance so the cover team can get close enough to not let then return to far. Punters can flip field positions.

They also have to hold for FG's generally speaking.

Still far easier compared to all other positions on a team, and they still steal a salary like long snappers, but it's tougher.

And the NFL agrees because the 20th best punter gets paid more than the best LS.

Why are people defending long snappers? It's like defending Nickelback.
 
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If Evan Brown messes up, it might just result in a holding penalty or a QB pressure. If a longsnapper messes up, it is a guaranteed disaster costing the team points or at least possession of the ball.
Exactly! Heck, Devin Hester is in the HOF for 19 return TDs, which was 3% of his returns. He essentially was perfect only 3% of the time and made the HOF. LS must be perfect 99.99% of time time just to keep their jobs and they ain't going to the HOF. Value is relative.

Also, let's not forget after Mike Leach retired, we had garbage here for a few games in 2016 due to a poor LS in Kameron Canaday and it forces us to trade for Brewer.
 
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If Evan Brown messes up, it might just result in a holding penalty or a QB pressure. If a longsnapper messes up, it is a guaranteed disaster costing the team points or at least possession of the ball.

I mean, it's not though?

If Evan Brown messes up maybe Kyler gets injured and misses the season. Maybe he takes a sack that takes us out of game winning FG. Maybe it results in a safety. Maybe it's a sack and a fumble for a scoop and score.

If Aaron brewer messes up the most likely thing that happens is we lose 10 yards and turnover on downs.

It's not even close how much things can be worse if Evan Brown messes up. And he has to not mess up for 1000 snaps in all kinds of ways, not just 136 in one way.
 

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Punting is the 2nd easiest job after LS, but still far more difficult.

You have to catch, position and punt with enough height and distance so the cover team can get close enough to not let then return to far. Punters can flip field positions.

They also have to hold for FG's generally speaking.

Still far easier compared to all other positions on a team, and they still steal a salary like long snappers, but it's tougher.

And the NFL agrees because the 20th best punter gets paid more than the best LS.

Why are people defending long snappers? It's like defending Nickelback.

Because it's the dead season, and for the same reasons you're banging on about this.

And STOP picking on a Canadian band!!! ;)
 

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I mean, it's not though?

If Evan Brown messes up maybe Kyler gets injured and misses the season. Maybe he takes a sack that takes us out of game winning FG. Maybe it results in a safety. Maybe it's a sack and a fumble for a scoop and score.

If Aaron brewer messes up the most likely thing that happens is we lose 10 yards and turnover on downs.

It's not even close how much things can be worse if Evan Brown messes up. And he has to not mess up for 1000 snaps in all kinds of ways, not just 136 in one way.
That's a whole lot of maybes against one maybe. Sure, maybe you lose 10 yards and loss of down only, but that's pretty rare with a horrible snap, and even then, it's usually pretty bad (lose 10 yards and downs while punting inside your own 20, for instance). You also very conveniently forget loss of points on FG/XP snaps. Direct points.
 

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That's a whole lot of maybes against one maybe. Sure, maybe you lose 10 yards and loss of down only, but that's pretty rare with a horrible snap, and even then, it's usually pretty bad (lose 10 yards and downs while punting inside your own 20, for instance). You also very conveniently forget loss of points on FG/XP snaps. Direct points.
It’s certainly a position I do not want to worry about…
 

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That's a whole lot of maybes against one maybe. Sure, maybe you lose 10 yards and loss of down only, but that's pretty rare with a horrible snap, and even then, it's usually pretty bad (lose 10 yards and downs while punting inside your own 20, for instance). You also very conveniently forget loss of points on FG/XP snaps. Direct points.

How about an 87 yard loss?

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A few more:

Joni Mitchell - Great
Anne Murray - Great
Céline Dion - Good
Sarah McLachlan - Suicidal Tendencies when listening to her music
K.D. Lang - Yee haw!
Alanis Morissette - Ironic
Avril Lavigne
Nelly Furtado
Alessia Cara
Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me, Maybe?
Lara Fabian
Neil Young
Leonard Cohen
Gordon Lightfoot - All-time Great
Drake - BLAME CANADA!
The Weeknd - Jams
Justin Bieber - You really want us to nuke Canada, don't you
The Band
Rush - Amazing Band
April Wine
The Guess Who
Bachman-Turner OverDrive
Steppenwolf
Barenaked Ladies
Cowboy Junkies
Arcade Fire
LoverBoy
The Tragically Hip
Drake and Justin Bieber negate the list. Sorry.
 

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Punting is the 2nd easiest job after LS, but still far more difficult.

You have to catch, position and punt with enough height and distance so the cover team can get close enough to not let then return to far. Punters can flip field positions.

They also have to hold for FG's generally speaking.

Still far easier compared to all other positions on a team, and they still steal a salary like long snappers, but it's tougher.

And the NFL agrees because the 20th best punter gets paid more than the best LS.

Why are people defending long snappers? It's like defending Nickelback.
Ray Guy could literally win a game with field position. I hated playing against him and he was just a punter. Easy job, no way…
 

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