Tulsi Gabbard Channels Trump on Borders

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  1. LoyaltyisaCurse

    LoyaltyisaCurse IF AND WHEN HEALTHY...

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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/tulsi-gabbard-rest-democratic-primary-160841317.html
     
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    Folster The system doesn't work.

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    Okay I'll bite. Maybe I don't understand the legal issues involved.

    Many Dem candidates have stated their support for decriminalizing illegal border crossings.

    If crossing the border illegally is no longer a crime, on what authority can those crossing the border be stopped? Can anyone freely cross the border? Please explain how this would work because I can't work out the logic.
     
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    You can decriminalize an illegal border crossing and still deport people. It just means you don't throw them in jail for 90 days for illegally crossing and then deport them.

    The illegal border crossing simply becomes a civil matter.
     
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    Folster The system doesn't work.

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    So are they ticketed and given a court date? Because that won't work and anybody who thinks it will is ignorant. Can they be detained until deportation?
     
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    Sounds like you were really interested in a conversation...not.
     
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    Sounds like you are having trouble explaining how this will work in practice.

    Let's say, I'm a Mexican citizen who crossed the border and gets picked up by border patrol. What happens to me?
     
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    you get deported. not put in jail for 90 days and THEN deported.

    this isn't that hard to understand.
     
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    Folster The system doesn't work.

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    So do I get detained up until deportation?
     
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    How do they send those deported back?
     
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    Well, the first thing that happens is they separate you and your mommy, then you get put in a cage and then get to brush your teeth in toilet water. I'll leave the rest to your imagination.
     
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    You could detain them pending a deportation hearing while decriminalizing illegal border crossings. Or you could simply deport them at the earliest opportunity, if they’re not claiming asylum.
     
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    You could always go work at one of the thousands of companies that exploit the cheap labor without any repercussions for hiring you while waiting to get deported.
     
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    Simple question that nobody here can seem to give a straight answer:

    Will those who cross the border illegally (non asylum seekers) under the proposed decriminalization be detained until deportation or released and given a court date?
     
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    I'm trying to understand it as well.

    I guess with open borders those who enter can stay in this country until they decide to leave or until they are detained and deported.

    If they commit a crime they can wait in a U.S. prison (jail) or until they appear in court.
     

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