Trump Wants to Curb Legal Immigration by Taking Away Government Subsidies

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    Who are you arguing with?
     
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    You do realize illegal immigrants are forbidden to received any benefits such as welfare, food stamps and etc. Legal immigrants are allowed to receive these but the Trump Admin wants to stop this.
     
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    Trump wants to trim down on subsidies for LEGAL immigrants to dissuade people from coming
     
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    You're basically arguing against something that even the GOP admits never happens. Most LEGAL immigrants don't qualify for benefits, that was admitted on live tv by Cuccinelli after this announcement was made because the reporter asked him that direct question and he said yes that's correct. If you think ILLEGAL immigrants are getting benefits that LEGAL ones can't qualify for I'd need to see some sort of evidence beyond Donald Trump said so.

    Yes some immigrants qualify for benefits, but it's not nearly as common as the GOP wants you to think it is. The people LEGALLY crossing the border are doing so on work visas usually, they're not doing so to apply for SNAP and other benefits. A quick google didn't find anything newer than a 2013 study but in that study 40% of SNAP recipients were white, 26 black and 10 Hispanic. If you really want to crack down on people abusing benefits you're targeting the wrong people, 40% of the people getting them are apparently white.
     
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    Sir, this is an Arby’s.
     
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    This decision has NOTHING to do with ILLEGAL migration to the US. And politically it's designed to illicit frothing at the mouth responses like yours and further divide. Evidently - it works!

    And here are examples of how other countries, notably Canada and Australia, are taking advantage of America's unwelcome mat:

    https://www.cicnews.com/2019/08/ski...being-rejected-by-us-immigration-0812624.html

    https://www.cicnews.com/2019/08/new...for-canadian-permanent-residence-0812593.html
     
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    Only absolute morons conflate laws regarding illegals immigrants with laws regarding legal immigrants. #MAGAts
     
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    On cue
     
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    Waves hand .. that would be me and no nobody gave me benefits and Russ says few get anything.

    This is just about making things a little harder for people in need as if they do qualify it is for a good reason but Trump makes it sound like an epidemic. This about demonizing brown and balack people nothing more.
     
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    He's literally trying to take LEGAL immigrants and make it difficult for them to get residency or citizenship so they will have to go "back where they came from." It's all about racism and playing to the base of stupid people who believe the reason they're not wealthy is that someone else is to blame and right now they're blaming immigrants because Trump tells them to.

    It's ludicrous just look at the people currently running for POTUS on the Dems side. You have a half black half Indian woman, a gay man, a black man, Latino men etc. If you need proof that people of color and immigrants positively benefit this country look no further than that.

    Which is why Trump targets the 4 young Dem women of color and demonizes them, he wants people to think they're unAmerican because the GOP just doesn't have anything similar in their party right now in terms of young women of color etc.

    As Obama said you might win by dividing but you can't govern that way.
     
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    They use to have an African American female GOP rep in Utah Mia Love who was defeated in 2018 because she did not fully embrace Trump. Remember him criticizing her after the election.
     
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    I have to say I think Cuccinelli is really getting a pass on some of what he's said but I guess like Trump when people already know you're a racist, they aren't surprised. When someone in his position says "well remember those people were coming from Europe" when discussing the Statue of Liberty what he's actually saying of course is those people were white. That's just inexcusable but I'm not seeing anywhere near as much press on it. I even saw a snippet of it on FB last night where someone on FOX news of all places called it an oddly inappropriate response to the question. When people on FOX think your racism is oddly inapproprate that means you are off the rails.
     
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