Trump Tax Returns

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  1. Ouchie-Z-Clown

    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    I think you start to see a trickle of republicans start to leave as Arash did. It’s the drafting of the ends and strings begin to unravel. Just need enough momentum to sway enough of them. It could happen. Particularly if they could prove crimes. It would become the central tenet of every race: Republicans, the party of crime. Some of them just couldn’t stand up to that imo.
     
  2. UncleChris

    UncleChris Retirement Doesn't Suck Contributor

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    Again, Congress has the Sergeant of Arms/Capital Police at their command. They literally could go into the White House and arrest his sorry arse.
     
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    UncleChris Retirement Doesn't Suck Contributor

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    For what it's worth, I was working as an Air Force Sgt at the National Security Agency during Nixon's last days. A day or two before he resigned, I received orders from my superior (which I passed on to my subordinates) that we were to disregard any orders from the President (note that the word "disobey" was not used). I have no idea where this order originated from, but I would have to believe the JCOS.

    We all felt a bit queasy about it, but knew we would do it if this issue actually arose (which, of course, it didn't).

    In addressing Ouchie's thoughts, I think this would be the same situation that I went through.
     
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    I guess the founders of our country never anticipated this.
     
  5. LoyaltyisaCurse

    LoyaltyisaCurse IF AND WHEN HEALTHY...

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    If you are enforcing the law, how is that a coup?
     
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    It's only a constitutional "crisis" if the Senate refuses to act. If not for McConnell, this whole charade would have ended long ago.
     
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    If it gets to the point of being much more obvious and damning than it already is, the GOP will lose the Senate in 2020, and then it's all over. McConnell could be expelled and imprisoned. I know that's probably in the land of fantasy, but the reality is that the country may be better off in the long term if Trump is still standing in 2020 and takes his entire flock down with him.
     
  8. LVG

    LVG Who?! Contributor

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    Eh..... the Secret Service may have something to say about that.
     
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    LVG Who?! Contributor

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    Just to clarify, constitutional crisis is another one of those words that is bandied about, usually inappropriately.

    What it means is that there is no mechanism in the constitution to solve the problem.
     
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  10. UncleChris

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    it could be interesting, but if the Capital Police seal off the White House (yes, that is a doable thing) it would be a relatively short standoff.
     
  11. LVG

    LVG Who?! Contributor

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    It's not a coup. But it would be coup-like, insofar that you would have to remove an impeached president by force.
     
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    LVG Who?! Contributor

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    In any event, it would require force to remove an impeached president. That was the broader point I was referring to.

    I don't agree with you that it would be a "short thing." Remember, the White House is fortified and has an emergency bunker, probably (it's not disclosed) with provisions for at least 60 days.

    And that's assuming Trump doesn't hop on a helicopter and fly to the bunker outside DC.
     
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    I think Adams and Jefferson thought about it. They both made comments about how the constitution will not protect the country or the people against an unjust ruler.
     
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    My guess (only a guess) - the military sits this one out.
     
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    I can't believe we're actually contemplating this scenario, and worse, it is an actual possibility in this country.
     

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