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He has spent as many 1st and 2nd round picks on TEs as he has on offensive linemen.
Right...and that's an indication of poor draft capital use. I get that they really wanted a legit replacement for DWash, but Deone Bucannon was among Keim's worst picks. A thumper strong safety converted to ILB and he wasn't even that good in coverage.
 

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Right...and that's an indication of poor draft capital use. I get that they really wanted a legit replacement for DWash, but Deone Bucannon was among Keim's worst picks. A thumper strong safety converted to ILB and he wasn't even that good in coverage.
It's so insane that 4 out of the 9 first round picks Keim has made have been MLBs or MLB converts, and none of them have really panned out.

Meanwhile, he's spent 0 first round picks and 1 2nd round pick on pass rushers, although he did trade a 2nd for CJ. It's such a backwards way to build a team under the guise of BPA.
 

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It's so insane that 4 out of the 9 first round picks Keim has made have been MLBs or MLB converts, and none of them have really panned out.

Meanwhile, he's spent 0 first round picks and 1 2nd round pick on pass rushers, although he did trade a 2nd for CJ. It's such a backwards way to build a team under the guise of BPA.

He didn't need to use high picks on pass rushers in the past. He had Golden and Jones for most of his tenure.

It does highlight though that you don't NEED a CJ to be successful. Before he was Golden and CJ we relied on guys like Sam Acho, Lamarr Woodley, Matt Shaughnessy, Alex Okafor, Lorenzo Alexander, Kareem Martin etc. Those great teams of the BA years from 2013-15 didn't have great outside rushers. Largely didn't have good ones.
 

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It was a swing on a projection from a school that regularly produces good NFL TEs.

Niklas had all the makings of what we see from Maxx Williams. His ceiling was decent receiver, great blocker. We saw glimpses of that potential, but the kid couldn't stay healthy.

I'll never forget that training camp video of him stonewalling Campbell in blocking drills. It was one of those things the entire team gathered around to watch. I don't know what happened after that.
 

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He didn't need to use high picks on pass rushers in the past. He had Golden and Jones for most of his tenure.

It does highlight though that you don't NEED a CJ to be successful. Before he was Golden and CJ we relied on guys like Sam Acho, Lamarr Woodley, Matt Shaughnessy, Alex Okafor, Lorenzo Alexander, Kareem Martin etc. Those great teams of the BA years from 2013-15 didn't have great outside rushers. Largely didn't have good ones.
Makes sense that it came back to bite us in the end. It highlights that more than anything. You absolutely NEED a Chandler Jones-caliber player to get you over the top when you just about have every other thing in place. It can get you by in the regular season without one, but playoffs? Good luck.
 

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It's so insane that 4 out of the 9 first round picks Keim has made have been MLBs or MLB converts, and none of them have really panned out.

Meanwhile, he's spent 0 first round picks and 1 2nd round pick on pass rushers, although he did trade a 2nd for CJ. It's such a backwards way to build a team under the guise of BPA.
More MLB picks than EDGE picks & equal the amount of 1st/2nd round TE picks than 1st/2nd round OL picks. Just awful roster construction. Keim & the guys that encourage him in that FO are stuck in 1997.
 

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Makes sense that it came back to bite us in the end. It highlights that more than anything. You absolutely NEED a Chandler Jones-caliber player to get you over the top when you just about have every other thing in place. It can get you by in the regular season without one, but playoffs? Good luck.

That is demonstrably not the case.

Last year the Rams leading Edge rusher was Floyd with 9.5 sacks. Von had 5. Although it helps having Donald with 12.5.

The Bucs the season before last won the Superbowl with Shaq Barrett leading on 10 sacks. JPP had 2.5.

The year before the Chiefs won the SB with Chris Jones leading the way on 7.5 sacks from the interior. Frank Clark had 6, Alex Okafor was next with 3.

Pats won the SB the year before with Trey Flowers leading with 7.5 sacks. I can't recall in any of the superbowl season the Pats having a top end edge. In fact, they moved CJ on because they didn't want to pay top end edge money to one. Then did the same with Trey Flowers.

The Eagles won it with Brandon Graham leading on 9.5 sacks. Nobody else had more than 5.5.

The last time and team won it with more than 10 sacks from a player in a season was Von Miller in 2015 with 11.

Seahawks won in 2014 with 8.5 sacks from Bennett and 8 from Avril.

Ravens won in 2013 with 9 sacks from Paul Kruger leading the way and Ngata next with 5.


In the last 10 years nobody has won the SB with a CJ style 17-20 sacks a season on the Edge. 11 is the max, the average is about 8.5.
 

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More MLB picks than EDGE picks & equal the amount of 1st/2nd round TE picks than 1st/2nd round OL picks. Just awful roster construction. Keim & the guys that encourage him in that FO are stuck in 1997.
Yeah, I also don't love our roster construction. That said, McBride isn't terrible in a vacuum. actually a smart play, but when you ignore other key areas for years it is a tough pill to swallow when you just trade for and paid a 30+ TE for the next 3 years and drafted a #3 WR last year.

Just not much of a multi-year plan. You can't play Moore and McBride on the field together for at least one year and probably three years.
 
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