This team is so soft

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  1. SoonerLou

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    You mean the Dolphins game where he carried the team? The Hail Murray play vs the 13-3 Bills?

    At least get your timeline right.
     
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    Maybe it is a Kyler issue. I was driving home before the game and Dave Pasch mentioned the lack of relationship between Fitz and Kyler. That matched up with comments by another radio guy starting the Kyler doesn't ever really talk to Fitz or pick his brain.

    Not sure I am giving Kyler input at this time. He hasn't earned that right
     
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    kerouac9 #Stiff4Kliff

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    Ok. How many TDS did he score in the last 4 games when all that was on the line was the postseason?
     
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    Yeah you mean the last 2 games against Defenses playing their asses off without Fitz, Edmonds, Kirk, and terrible game plans and coaching both weeks? Or the 2 before that where 33 and 26 with solid games for him in both? Kyler is NOT the problem on this team it’s becoming obvious the coaching is bad and not just Kyler but many players aren’t being coached up or put in positions to succeed.
     
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    Main issue is coaching. Wrong concepts called at wrong time. That option call on 3rd and 18 with a one legged QB and molasses RB encapsulates the absurdity of KKs play calling. Ditto for VJ having a LB try and cover a WR or never have answers for third and long
     
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    Pair Kyler with McVay or Shanahan and see what happens. Between the horrible scheming, coaching, playcalling, and offensive personnel, he's playing with an anvil on his back.
     
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    kerouac9 #Stiff4Kliff

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    Don’t know why you’d think those guys would want him. They seem to like pocket passers who can deliver the ball in rhythm.

    I don’t necessarily disagree with you—those are two of the best offensive minds in football. But Kyler this season didn’t show much aptitude to keeping the offense on schedule when he’s not using his legs.
     
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    I firmly believe this
     
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    Redsz We do this together

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    I personally don't think Kyler is the problem. We were 6-3 at one point largely based on his athletic ability.

    However, it's clear that defences adjusted to us and we did not respond. That's on coaching.
     
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    I think he had 10 TDs the entire 2nd half of the season. Not really impressive.

    seemed like teams got tape on the offense around the week 9 and neither Kyler nor Kliff ever adjusted.
     
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    Didnt account for protection
     
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    I firmly believe if Kyler was to walk in to Mike's office and say KK needs to go...KK is gone
     
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    Or he got hurt vs. the Seahawks and played with AC sprain for 3 weeks.

    Last game he was bad and this game he was hurt.

    So more like 13 total tds in 7 games and change (Just 3 series today)

    3 vs. Bills
    2 vs. Seahawks
    0 vs. Pats
    3 vs. Rams
    1 vs. Giants
    4 vs. Eagles
    0 vs. 49ers
    0 vs. Rams (3 series)

    Added context: A couple Kirk dropped Tds as well.
     
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    availability is an asset. So is the ability to stay healthy enough to be productive.

    last 7 games... 9 TDs, whether that’s because his body is too weak to stay healthy enough to be effective or he just flat out sucked like last week.

    and stop with the Kirk “dropped some TDs”z that all comes out in the wash with some of the ridiculous TDs Hopkins had and picks that were dropped.

    bottom line, he wasn’t nearly effective down the stretch because he either played poorly or because his body wouldn’t allow him to be effective.
     
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    Your original point was that teams got TAPE on Kyler and he never really adjusted. Yet omit the fact that the very same game he got hurt.

    He was POW just two weeks prior.

    No he didnt maintain the 48 TD pace he was on at midseason. However, I dont think its a tape issue that happened down the stretch.
     
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