This Team is About To Be Broken Up!

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Not sure why it was deleted by Evan Sidery. Basically just said that Bill Simmons said in his podcast that rumors were that Indiana was going to come after Ayton hot and heavy.
 
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You can't roll out there with this team again. They lack mental toughness you need to win a title. This loss is the type of soul sucking loss that will haunt these guys forever. That is two major collapses two consecutive years in the playoffs.

People talk about our culture. Guess what? That is now part of our culture.
you know who fixes that mental toughness issue? Damian Lillard
 

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I don't think so. If Chris Paul can't fix it, I don't know why Damian would be able to.

He doesn't fit what the Suns do either he's not really a ball movement and defense guy. Great player but he'll be 32 in 2 months coming off serious injuries.
 

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The guy who I think would put the Suns over teh top, depending on what you have to give up to get him would be DeAaron Fox but based on what's said in Sac they don't want to trade him and doesn't want to be traded. They have an interesting situation they had 3 NBA starters at PG, they moved Haliburton but they still have Fox and Davion Mitchell. My guess is they don't want to trade Mitchell either he'd be good in Phoenix too, great defender, but I think everyone assumed Fox was going to get moved before the deadline and instead they moved Haliburton
 

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I think we are too lose to the collapse to remember how good we are. They will find out why we struggled and tweak, but to think we are suddenly bad is reactionary.
I don't think we're bad at all. But I don't believe we lost to an inferior team. And I don't believe there were anywhere near as many teams inferior to us this season as our record would indicate.

We hid a lot of our shortcomings behind the stellar 4th quarter play of Chris Paul, so anything that takes Paul down just a little takes way down. That's not a survivable situation because players at this time of year are almost always playing at less than full health.
 

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I don't think we're bad at all. But I don't believe we lost to an inferior team. And I don't believe there were anywhere near as many teams inferior to us this season as our record would indicate.

We hid a lot of our shortcomings behind the stellar 4th quarter play of Chris Paul, so anything that takes Paul down just a little takes way down. That's not a survivable situation because players at this time of year are almost always playing at less than full health.
very well put!
 

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I don't think we're bad at all. But I don't believe we lost to an inferior team. And I don't believe there were anywhere near as many teams inferior to us this season as our record would indicate.

We hid a lot of our shortcomings behind the stellar 4th quarter play of Chris Paul, so anything that takes Paul down just a little takes way down. That's not a survivable situation because players at this time of year are almost always playing at less than full health.
Kind of my opinion too and it's why it surprises me when I see guys ripping Monty for not being this or that. I think you have a very good team but I don't think you won the most games because you had the best talent I think he did a good job of winning close games all year. CP3 being the primary reason why.

If CP3 were 30 the argument would be you need a coach to get you over that last hurdle, but he's not so I think the next step has to be the PG. You guys have to find another PG that's good enough to start next year.
 

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I'd much rather have a team who struggles early in the year then puts it all together in time for the playoffs, than a team who coasts all year with close wins then is not ready when adversity arises.

I like Ayton and think he could be a great player. I just don't think he wants it. Way too laid back. And this set of coaches won't demand it. I want him traded for a servicable center like Valančiūnas and a quality PG. And trade for some defense rebounding beef. I like Cam Johnson, but he doesn't help you much in the playoffs and he's gonna want to get paid this off-season. Is he worth it?

And for the love of God, can we get a couple guys who can hit an open 3? Every team in the league has 2-3 of those players!
 

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ONe name I'd throw in there because he's about to be a FA is Tyus Jones. he showed this last year that he's capable of being a pretty good NBA pg. He's not an all star, he has warts, but he's a terrific defender and he runs the show on offense.

No idea what he's going to do but there's speculation it's unlikely he returns to Memphis they have a weird situation where they're going to Max Ja Morant with obvious reason but the team was statistically better with Jones as the PG.
 

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Paul originally signed a new contract with the Suns for about 4 years at $120 million but not all of the money was guaranteed.

I reexamined Chris Paul's salary thanks to @AzStevenCal.

It is much better than I originally thought because I wasn't counting the 2021-22 season. Chris Paul's approximate $90 million in guaranteed salary included this season's salary of about $30,800,000.

So this means he is only guaranteed about $28,400,000 for the 2022-23 season and $15,800,000 for 2023-24 season.
A total of about of about $45 million of future guaranteed salary if my math is correct.

Still a financial burden but not nearly as much as it could have been.
 
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