This game will be a treatise of KK's offensive "genius".

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I'm not sure 38 will be enough. I would venture to say 42-45 may be necessary. The Cowboys will be aggressive coming after KK. KK will need to make them pay with his legs. It'll be a tough game. Dallas will be playing for Dak & the officiating will be horrendous. You can count on that.


Aw man PA. I don't have enough Tagamet in my cabinet for that kind of game brother.
 

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No, it won't. Not more than any other game at least.
 

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how many points validates KK's offense? just curious

28? 31? 35?
 

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Kliff's offense has never scored more that 32 points. It's too slow and methodical to score more on it's own, especially with the number of stalled drives we have from penalties.

Without a defensive or ST touchdown to help (which we haven't had in how long?) then I can't see us breaking 32. Not without a considerable change in how deep we throw.
Well, I’m thrilled about being wrong about how many points we would need!
 

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No, it won't. Not more than any other game at least.

Aj, I'm here to give KK his full and total props today. My point was that with the Cowboys' defense being historically bad, if we were unable to score, that would speak to his inability to scheme offensive success. A 27-17 loss would have driven me to the insane asylum, but our HC was able to overcome Kyler's erratic play early and call a damn good game. Again, I tip my cap to that brother today.
 

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Aj, I'm here to give KK his full and total props today. My point was that with the Cowboys' defense being historically bad, if we were unable to score, that would speak to his inability to scheme offensive success. A 27-17 loss would have driven me to the insane asylum, but our HC was able to overcome Kyler's erratic play early and call a damn good game. Again, I tip my cap to that brother today.

Yeah. To recover from 2 ugly losses with two blowout wins means he must be doing something right.
 

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All you haters will love Kingsbury and Murray when it's all said and done. We don't know the ceiling on either of these guys. But their base,, the worst they can do, is better than many teams have. Kingsbury is already a top 10 coach and Murray a top 10 QB.

Is being critical being a "hater"? I mean is it that black and white?

I am one of Murray's biggest fans and I think he is just outside that top 10 right now.
 

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All you haters will love Kingsbury and Murray when it's all said and done. We don't know the ceiling on either of these guys. But their base,, the worst they can do, is better than many teams have. Kingsbury is already a top 10 coach and Murray a top 10 QB.

i am very optimistic on both KK and K1

i also think neither is even close to being a finished product

I dont think KK is in the top 3rd of the league, but i am also very happy with how he has done so far.

i dont think K1 is top 10 right now, for this season. But i cant think of more than 4 QBs i would trade him for.
 

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i am very optimistic on both KK and K1

i also think neither is even close to being a finished product

I dont think KK is in the top 3rd of the league, but i am also very happy with how he has done so far.

i dont think K1 is top 10 right now, for this season. But i cant think of more than 4 QBs i would trade him for.

Yep
 

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Is being critical being a "hater"? I mean is it that black and white?

I am one of Murray's biggest fans and I think he is just outside that top 10 right now.

Fair enough.

I tend to agree with Peter King, on Colin Cowherd just now. He said normally he'd be asleep by halftime of a Monday night game, after writing his articles. But he stayed up just to watch Kyler. He said Lamar has peaked, completing under 60% of his passes the last 4 games. So when we talk about Kylers accuracy we need to keep some perspective.

We don't know what Kyler is yet. Kyler himself may not even know.
 

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i am very optimistic on both KK and K1

i also think neither is even close to being a finished product

I dont think KK is in the top 3rd of the league, but i am also very happy with how he has done so far.

i dont think K1 is top 10 right now, for this season. But i cant think of more than 4 QBs i would trade him for.

I disagree that K1 isn't a top ten quarterback. He isn't a top ten passer, but he absolutely is a top 10 QB, if not top five.

QBs I would take over him, I can count on one hand when you factor how much he can improve as a passer.
 
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