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It funny how fast a coach can go from walking on water to drowning in it. Once again the feared phrase, “Same old Cardinals,” echoes through the corridors of a stadium. While I have sympathy for Whisenhunt’s plight; much of it was his call. It now seems likely this team will go from first to worst in the NFC West with little hope of immediate redemption.

The most grievous of the decisions was the handling of the quarterback situation. Cutting Leinart at the end of pre-season was inexcusable. Whisenhunt had several years and numerous games before deciding Leinart was not an NFL QB. Whisenhunt needs to have a long talk with Allen Iverson about the value of practice if he’s going to cut people based on how they practice. Whisenhunt may be right that considering the future roster bonus Leinart wasn’t worth it, but delaying the decision until the start of the season was unpardonable. The selection of Anderson was also hard to swallow based on his history. Did anyone actually look at recent film on this guy? The final straw was entering the season with no experienced back-up, but instead falling in love with 2 rookies. Whisenhunt apparently couldn’t choose between.

The theory was that Leinart didn’t have the “hearts and minds” of the team. Well if they won a few games with him at QB that would have taken care of itself. I’m quite sure that the Anderson has neither hearts nor minds now. Leinart was also criticized for not having a strong arm. Max Hall hardly has a cannon. By my count the Cards threw deep less than once per game in the first 5 games. By contrast the Cards threw the ball to the wrong team far more frequently. Leinart took what the defense gave him. I’m not saying he looked like a great QB, but he at least did not regularly beat himself. That might have been good enough to win this division. This was a “he’s just not my type of guy” call and pandering to one’s own ego is always dangerous.

The same thing generally could be said for the wide receiver group. The Cards went with only 3 experienced receivers. When one got hurt they were starting a rookie. Then a second starter got hurt and that left two rookies starting. It’s not like injury to Doucet could be classed as surprising. They had to know they would likely be starting rookies at some point. Finally, all those rookie receivers had no idea what a “hot” read was; thus putting pressure on a weak offensive line. Decent unsigned players were available, though the best ones would have cost veteran minimums.

Another issue in my mind is the Steeler connection. As in past years, the Pittsburgh alumni once again left Whisenhunt searching for answers. Grimm has still not been able to build an offensive line that can run block consistently or pass protect. In the past two seasons Grimm was aided by Warner’s having learned to get rid of the ball quickly, but no one could get rid of it quickly enough to make the current group acceptable. Both tackles are more like revolving doors than roadblocks and blitzes are rarely picked up by any of the line. Admittedly the running backs haven’t been of much help. Ex-Steeler Alan Faneca gives you all he’s got and that is precisely the problem. It’s no longer enough. I will concede that the personnel Grimm has is mediocre at best. The play calling hasn’t helped much either. Still this line has been below average for his tenure and it’s time for a change.

Then there’s the loudest of the Cardinals. Ex-Steeler Joey Porter has always talked a good game. He’s sort of the Buddy Ryan of linebackers. That said, there is a big gap between his talk and his performance of late. He has occasionally been decent against the run and average against passes in his zone. However the Cards brought him in to revive a weak pass rush and he simply hasn’t produced the desperately needed sacks. On play after play in game after game, opposing QBs have all the time in the world. The secondary needs work, but with the time the rival QB is getting, the best corners in the league wouldn’t hold up.

Then there’s Clark Haggans, another guy from Pittsburgh. He was certainly a solid backup, but he has major limitations as a starter. The current backup players, unless you count Washington, have been pedestrian at best. O’Brien may provide a glimmer of hope.

Whether we’re talking players or coaches, Whisenhunt's tenure has left the Cardinals looking like an old folks’ home for Steeler castoffs. This is as much Graves fault as Whisenhunt. Even if Whisenhunt wants these players Graves should be cautious and make certain a player can still play at the level Whisenhunt recalls. This isn’t supposed to be fantasy football. Clearly in the NFL coaches and players move for a variety of reasons, but over-loading from one team because those players know the expectations of a coach appears to be a questionable strategy if they can’t fulfill those expectations.

Though he coached briefly under Bill Cowher, Defensive Coordinator Bill Davis can’t really be considered primarily an ex-Steeler. He was supposed to be the guru who could transform the AZ defense from a 4-3 to a 3-4 alignment. It is fair to say he’s coached in many other places. It’s also fair to say that in his only stint as a defensive coordinator he was a dismal failure with the Niners. I still maintain this team’s personnel were better suited to a 4-3, especially when he got here. To make this work it now appears they may have wasted a first round pick on Williams. The old folks’ brigade has not helped. Coverage from the inside linebackers is also been a major issue when Washington doesn’t play and with the line unable to pressure the passer. This is a major fault. The loyalty Whisenhunt has for his staff is admirable, but not seeing reality is a deficiency . Clearly this defense is not improving year to year.

Then there’s the issue of an offensive coordinator. Whisenhunt decided he’d just handle this himself when Haley left for KC. The head coach assuming two roles has become fashionable lately. I’m sure ownership likes the cost savings. However, the real cost is the lack of a second voice on player and personnel selection. I am not convinced naming Grimm Assistant Head Coach provides an objective second opinion. Clearly Haley and Whisenhunt often disagreed, but in the end looking at more options is almost always the best route to go. The offense has become pedestrian and predictable. Neither quality is likely to be a winning trait in the NFL.

When I initially looked at the Cardinals' last off-season losses I wasn’t extremely concerned. I felt Leinart would be adequate at quarterback. I thought the safety change was at worst a push. The offense had worked without Boldin on most occasions and numerous adequate depth guys were available. Dansby’s loss was easily the biggest, but Washington offered a decent alternative. I never expected the Cards to simply ignore these losses or see them as insignificant. The failure to go after a solid pass rusher was huge.

I actually picked the Cards to win this Monday, but I wouldn’t be shocked if they lost every one of their remaining games. Their current status is shaky. They have no QB, huge offensive line holes, questionable tight ends, no receiver depth, and some veteran players, like Wilson, are starting to show wear and tear. Except for linebacker they’ve gotten little help from last years’ draft unless Williams gets religion.

Looking ahead, Alan Branch may be their best pass rusher and depending on a new players’ agreement, he may be leaving soon. Fitzgerald could opt out if things do not improve. This is a team heading downhill at a furious place. The real question is, “Was the previous improvement primarily due to Haley and Warner or Whisenhunt?”

For the remainder of this year, the young players should play. Bench Anderson! He’s not the future. Start O’Brien and see what you have. Start Washington; he falls for too many play action fakes and over-pursues, but he won’t improve sitting on the bench. I don’t know how the Cards can fix this mess with one draft, even assuming they don’t lose anyone. Whisenhunt must be more flexible if he is to succeed and take some chances. The Cards must spend some money in free agency. Sadly it looks like they will get an early selection in the draft, so that helps.
 

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Excellent analysis. Kind of depressing but that is the reality of the situation. Changes are certainly needed in the off season. Hopefully they will occur.
 

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Great read. I agree with playing the young guys, I feel we have to see what they have to offer us so we can plan for the future. It's sickening how fast this team has fallen.
 

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It just summarizes what has been said here for months now. There are two camps here concerning Leinart and two camps for Whiz.

I think the one thing everyone agrees on is this is not going to get fix over one year. I believe we will suffer through at least one more bad season and even maybe two and that's if the powers in place do the right things. If they don't it will be even longer before we see a competitive team again.
 

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While I agree with a lot of this - the Whiz vs Haley/Warner concept is overblown.

Really - to structure an argument with this preconception invalidates a lot of good reasoning:

1. Do we need an OC calling plays instead of Whiz to be successful? -Yes
2. Do we need a decent QB to stay in the race for the NFC West? -Yes

These two issues are a result of Graves and Whiz, not just Whiz - so pitting the last couple of years of success on Whiz or Haley/Warner is inappropriate. Whiz shot himself in the foot this season and Graves/Bidwill allowed it to happen - all are at fault. It will be interesting to see how it changes in the off-season.

And Williams isn't a wasted pick regardless of the scheme next year - a good coordinator will find a way to utilize his strengths, as you have preached so often over the years.
 

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When you're losing, it's easy to overdramatize/overgeneralize/overglobalize and develop long checklists of what went wrong (usually followed by detailed instructions on how to blow up the entire team).

Taking a step back for a moment to observe the carnage, I'm more inclined to distill things down to 2 pivotal factors:

1. Quarterback and 2. Erratic Defense. (All the other factors that we can point fingers at - while not to be ignored - were relatively marginal).

Bad Move #1: With the benefit of hindsight, it becomes pretty evident that we wasted a top ten draft pick on a QB who didn't have what it takes. (Who did the evaluating? Who in the FO was flat-wrong or spot-on)?

Good Move #1: We lucked out (& "stole" a couple of years) when we signed Kurt Warner as a backup and got a lot more out of him than most people expected. (If you're going to blame the FO for bad outcomes, you have to give them credit - whether they were lucky or otherwise - when there's a good outcome).

Bad Move #2: When Warner left with a year on his contract (& again with the benefit of hindsight) perhaps the Cardinal FO might have done more to persuade him to stick around for the final year.

Good Move #2: Cards used a mid-round draft pick and free agency to bring in 2 young QBOF candidates. (I wouldn't write off Hall too prematurely - he obviously wasn't ready, but it doesn't mean he wouldn't be in a year or two).

Bad Move #3: Not evaluating Leinart's progress accurately enough or developing him well enough - and then prematurely deciding to make him "the guy" before then changing our minds and releasing him. (Waffling on Leinart by the FO = Cluelessness about a key position. Not a good thing).

Bad Move #4: Adding Anderson as a backup to Leinart (under the assumption that Anderson's deficiencies were "correctable." There are growing indications that Anderson's accuracy and touch problems are more in-born and chronic).

Bad Move #5: When Leinart was released, rolling the dice on Anderson backed up by 2 untried rookies (i.e. with no veteran as part of a backup plan should Anderson not cut it).

To sum up - Our difficulty at QB wasn't due to a single issue but from a series of miscues that have added up to disaster. (Note - Maybe a team can get away with these sorts of missteps when trying to square away a different position like TE or DE. But QB is too vital to the overall success of a team for the FO to allow the team not to be rock-solid there.

I don't think our problems on defense are directly due to lack of talent anywhere on that side of the ball (In fact I believe we have the most talent & depth across the board than we've had in a long long while). I do have a problem with the way these guys have been playing as a unit - too many mental errors/too many breakdowns in technique/no answers for other teams' offensive successes or exploitation of matchups/inability to stop an opposing team's momentum.

All coaching issues, in my opinion.

The Cardinal defense ranks #32 in plays given up over (I believe it's) 20 yards. We can't stop big, physical dominant opposing receivers like Gates, Mike Williams #1, Mike Williams #2, Bowe etc. (We simply never come up with answers for this - like mixing coverages or putting a second guy on him). Too much free-lancing and blown-execution has led to up & down play by our star SS.

Quarterback. Defense. Fix those and we'd be better-than-OK.

When the season is over, those individuals responsible for those QB decisions and putting an unsound defense on the field should be called to account.

(Note: That doesn't necessarily mean firing a whole bunch of people - unless they've demonstrated that they can't or won't change or that their presence would prevent a key problem from being fixed. But it does mean taking a cold, hard look at what went wrong, who did it, what went into their thinking, whose judgment can be relied upon more or less in the future and what steps must be taken to set things right).
 
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Bad Move #1: With the benefit of hindsight, it becomes pretty evident that we wasted a top ten draft pick on a QB who didn't have what it takes. (Who did the evaluating? Who in the FO was flat-wrong or spot-on)?

Good Move #1: We lucked out (& "stole" a couple of years) when we signed Kurt Warner as a backup and got a lot more out of him than most people expected. (If you're going to blame the FO for bad outcomes, you have to give them credit - whether they were lucky or otherwise - when there's a good outcome).

Both were done by Green. But let's analyze the Leinart pick. At the time, what was the alternative draft choice? The team needed a QB so should we have drafted Cutler instead? There isn't a player taken after Leinart who we could look back on who would have made a dramatic affect on the team. Not Cromartie, not Williams, not Addai, no one. But let's look at his numbers: 214 of 377 for 2,547 yards, 11 TD, 12 INT. Not bad for a rookie. His first game he threw for 253 yards and 2 scores as the defense cost him this win. The infamous Bears game, he threw for 2 scores and had the offense moving until Green decided to shut the offense down ultimately losing on a punt return. And he even had a game where he threw for over 400 yards. He showed a lot of promise. Then in comes Whiz and all of a sudden Leinart looks mediocre. IMO, Whiz let it be known from jump street that he had no confidence in Leinart.

Leinart was built for the west coast offense which Whiz doesn't run. He's not a drop back QB. Never was. Not even in college. His forte was quick slants and the like which is far from a Whiz offensive gameplan. Instead of building you offense around your QB, he wanted the QB to acclimate to his offense. Good coaches do the opposite of what Whiz does.
 

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I don't think our problems on defense are directly due to lack of talent anywhere on that side of the ball (In fact I believe we have the most talent & depth across the board than we've had in a long long while). I do have a problem with the way these guys have been playing as a unit - too many mental errors/too many breakdowns in technique/no answers for other teams' offensive successes or exploitation of matchups/inability to stop an opposing team's momentum.

The talent at Linebacker is not as good as it has been. Haggans, Porter, Lenon, the rookie Washington, and Hayes are weaker than Haggans(a year younger), Hayes (also a year younger), Dansby and the combination of Okeafor and Berry.

This is why the defense has given up so many big plays, can't pressure the passer and gets killed by bigger running backs.

But you are on target in the second part of that sentance. I do believe that Davis is a victim of the Peter Principle. He was great as a linebackers coach. Not so great as DC.

Now as to the future we've got young guys who are showing some promise, Tolar at CB, not bad for a really small school guy, in his second season, Rashad Johnson is playing well. DRC, who knows what's happened to him. Hopefully somebody will figure it out and get that guy back on track. He certainly has the skills to be a top CB.

Dan Williams is going to be a difference maker in the middle, Daryl Washington has all kinds of skills, though I am concerned as to why he's been benched for Lenon because there have been numerous rookies come in and excel at WILB in the 3-4.

I don't think Campbell has really regressed it just looks that way because the linebackers are so bad.

The biggest problem on defense going forward, as I see it, is that the current Cards coaching staff seems to be having real problems identifying and developing OLBs for the 3-4.
 

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Leinart was built for the west coast offense which Whiz doesn't run. He's not a drop back QB. Never was. Not even in college. His forte was quick slants and the like which is far from a Whiz offensive gameplan. Instead of building you offense around your QB, he wanted the QB to acclimate to his offense. Good coaches do the opposite of what Whiz does.

+1
 

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I just want to see Whiz turn it up a notch. He started a game a couple weeks ago with some nice plays, including a reverse. I just watched the Pats yesterday, instead of the shot gun hand off we never gain anything with, NE simply snapped it straight to the running back.


The season is pretty much a bust so get creative with the play call, and show folks why you didn't need a OC. The QB problem this year can only be excused this year, nothing else seems to matter when you have the problems we do at QB. New DC, somebody that can adjust to his players strengths might be a start.

I ain't excusing or denying Whiz's decisions. We came back to suckville in worp drive.
We can't even compete in our sad division this year. But Whiz can learn from whats going on right now, he wouldn't be where he is if he couldn't.

The part that puzzles me, myself and I, is how many fools I want gone after this year.
Usually, I would think If there are more than a few coaches not treading water, I tend to go for the HC as the problemo.

Amazingly I don't. :)

Graves, see ya, nice knowing you.
Grimm, don't call us , we will call you.
Davis, you have 10 minutes to gather your belongings, security will escort you out of the building.
 
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Excellent post, Harry; and an great counterpoint argument by Jeff G.

My comment relates to one of the structural deficiencies in the Cardinals organization. The GM, Graves is not getting the job done.

Yes, Whisenhunt's recent decisions have been the cause of some problems for the Cardinals, however it is due to the GM's inability or reluctance to confront and/or counter-balance the head coach's decisions; whether it be Whiz, Green or even McGinnis; that is the crucible of grave consequence.

Even with a good head coach, there are times when he is too close to the fire to see the flames. The coach needs a stong GM to object and counter those situations in which his decision's might cause the organization to get burnt.

Rod Graves is not the man for that job!
 
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A voice extolling sanity. What a nice change from the 'In Whiz I Trust' bunch.
 

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Excellent post, Harry; and an great counterpoint argument by Jeff G.

My comment relates to one of the structural deficiencies in the Cardinals organization. The GM, Graves is not getting the job done.

Yes, Whisenhunt's recent decisions have been the cause of some problems for the Cardinals, however it is due to the GM's inability or reluctance to confront and/or counter-balance the head coach's decisions; whether it be Whiz, Green or even McGinnis; that is the crucible of grave consequence.

Even with a good head coach, there are times when he is too close to the fire to see the flames. The coach needs a stong GM to object and counter those situations in which his decision's might cause the organization to get burnt.

Rod Graves is not the man for that job!

Agree.

I also want to counter the Todd Haley/Warner made Whisenhunt argument.

What about last season? With a lackluster running game (which did improve over the course of the season) and a seriously banged up Kurt Warner, our offense still produced with Whisenhunt calling the plays. I think that Derrick Anderson is just that bad! He struggles to complete basic NFL throws, which is why he fails so often on third down.

How often have we seen Anderson throw a terrible pass or a barely off the mark pass on third down so far this season? It's hard to fault the offensive playcaller when his QB fails to complete even the most basic pass plays. So why not run more? Well were not exactly a good running team either. We run well in spurts but can't consistently grind an opposing defense.
 

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Right on Krang. It's hard to fault the playcalling when the QB can't throw and the line can't block.

But you sure can fault the personnel decisions. Several of which have been serious head scratchers.
 

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Right on Krang. It's hard to fault the playcalling when the QB can't throw and the line can't block.

But you sure can fault the personnel decisions. Several of which have been serious head scratchers.

The only thing I'm really critical of is the Leinart release. No one can convince me that Leinart would have been worse than Anderson. I think that Whisenhunt fell folly to his believe in his ability and his assistant's ability to develop Anderson. Anderson has failed to improve at every level; Derek Anderson now is the same scatter armed QB I watched at Oregon State, just playing against much better defenses.

Putting all your eggs in the basket of Derek Anderson, Max Hall, and John Skelton is a major mistake, but I'm not convinced that Whisenhunt is all of a sudden a terrible coach.

Additionally, Bill Davis' defense had 45 sacks last year and at times played very well which leads me to believe that a lot of our problems are solely personnel related. Bill Davis is constantly having to cover for gaping holes (SS, LB mainly) and teams can exploit them.

That's why we have a few series here and there that the defense actually looks good; our CBs, FS, DL are actually pretty good IM. The LBs are terribad, I doubt any would start for nearly any other NFL team. And of course, the bread and butter of a 3-4 defense in the linebacker play.
 

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Honestly my belief is that the weak link in the system is Rod Graves. The guy in charge of the personnel department and in charge of the overall operation. If Whisenhunt is run amok, Rod Graves is the one who is supposed to check him, so in essence any of Whisenhunt's failures also fall on Rod Graves as well.

With Rod Graves' pre-Whisenhunt track record, I'd venture to say that the evidence points to Whisenhunt being the competent one, and with good players, Whisenhunt can excel as an NFL Head Coach.
 
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Honestly my belief is that the weak link in the system is Rod Graves. The guy in charge of the personnel department and in charge of the overall operation. If Whisenhunt is run amok, Rod Graves is the one who is supposed to check him, so in essence any of Whisenhunt's failures also fall on Rod Graves as well.
Yep. Make no mistake, Whisenhunt has made some questionable decisions. But where was the guy that is supposed to say, "Wait a minute there, coach!"
 

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Yep. Make no mistake, Whisenhunt has made some questionable decisions. But where was the guy that is supposed to say, "Wait a minute there, coach!"

Exactly. I still blame Rod Graves. That's the same guy who let Coach Mac run the show completely. He gave him an over the hill Emmitt Smith, Jeff Blake, and Jason McAddley starting at WR. He obviously is not headstrong enough to run a football team.

Whisenhunt is human, and just like any good coach in the National Football League, he is going to make mistakes. Jimmy Johnson built a team of the ages Dallas Cowboys football program, then made some ghastly errors while running the Miami Dolphins. The guy couldn't find a starting WR or RB to save his life there.

I'm not comparing Whisenhunt to Johnson; Johnson was a much better Macro-football guy (run the program) whereas I view Whisenhunt as a much better game day coach.
 

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Bottom line is Denny Green got fired and at the same time Rod Graves got promoted. Go figure that one!!
 

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Leinart was built for the west coast offense which Whiz doesn't run. He's not a drop back QB. Never was. Not even in college. His forte was quick slants and the like which is far from a Whiz offensive gameplan. Instead of building you offense around your QB, he wanted the QB to acclimate to his offense. Good coaches do the opposite of what Whiz does.


+1

I think what's going on is that Whiz believed his own press clippings, thought he was more of a genius than he is and is now flaming out in dramatic fashion.

I still think the guy could be a good coach, you never know, some of the best ever have had to go through what Whiz is now going through to find the right formula to win in the NFL.

The entire thing boils down to him correctly diagnosing what went wrong and the FO correctly diagnosing the same thing and getting on the same page with Whiz to fix it.

Honestly if I was the owner I'd fire Graves, hire the best GM candidate I could find then let it flow from there.

We'll see but the longer this FO stays the less faith I have in this team IMO.

Good FO's just don't have this many things go wrong that should be obvious to anyone with a brain, it's just compounded bad decisions upon bad decisions with questionable drafts to boot.

I can excuse Whiz in many ways more than I can the FO, their job is to not ever let things like this season happen, even if there has to be some backwards steps you don't just sprint backwards like this, you don't allow this short of massive team injuries, this is more on the FO than Whiz but he's a close 2nd, I just have faith he has more upside than the FO does.
 
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