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I don’t even know who Rand is.
I’m probably a good litmus test for how this being received by the rest of the world (non-book readers). I love fantasy fiction. So this excited when it was announced and I heard the books had a big following. And I’ve continued to watch despite being a little lost and bored. I thought the final episode was good.
 

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The books have as much insufferable teen drama between adults who don't even like each other ?

Padan Fain is up to no good likely helping the Trollocs using the ways.
100% a darkfriend

Liandrin bo*tycall is likely a darkfriend too.

Perrin always looks sad.

If those girls fight like that pregnant , how they ever loose a battle when they are not ?
 

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Your mistake is thinking this is a straight adaptation. It isn’t.

Oh and episode 7 is one of the best in the series.
You were right about episode 7... so good. Great back story on Lan and the speed up on Nynaeve and his relationship was well done. The Rand flashbacks were well timed and much needed. The flow of the story seems to be back on pace.

I'm impressed with the sets. Tar Valon and Fal Dara looked great. They really did a good job bringing them to light. The Ways looked so cool too.

Not a fan of the Min casting. First time I haven't liked their casting selection.
 

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The books have as much insufferable teen drama between adults who don't even like each other ?

Padan Fain is up to no good likely helping the Trollocs using the ways.
100% a darkfriend

Liandrin bo*tycall is likely a darkfriend too.

Perrin always looks sad.

If those girls fight like that pregnant , how they ever loose a battle when they are not ?
They don't. Aiel are the most dangerous warriors in WoT. And if you think the pregnant women are tough, you should see the old women (not kidding).
 

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Egwene is one of those girlfriends…

RUN Rand !
 

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I was immensely disappointed in Episode 1 and 2 due to the immense amount of changes from the books. 3 and 4 redeemed it though skipping meeting Min is really a bold move.
 

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Yeah just finished 4. They meet her right off though in the books.
If you're a book reader (and it sounds like you are), you will probably be frustrated. But stick with it, I'm a book reader and I think it gets better and better. Still not as good as the books, but it's nearly impossible to do that anyway.

It's really funny -- it's hard to be enthusiastic about a series after you have already read the books. But if you see a series/movie before the books, it's a different situation. I did that with Harry Potter and love both the movies and the books.

Game of Thrones is an outlier, I read the books first and liked the first book especially, but enjoyed the series more than the books.
 

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If you're a book reader (and it sounds like you are), you will probably be frustrated. But stick with it, I'm a book reader and I think it gets better and better. Still not as good as the books, but it's nearly impossible to do that anyway.

It's really funny -- it's hard to be enthusiastic about a series after you have already read the books. But if you see a series/movie before the books, it's a different situation. I did that with Harry Potter and love both the movies and the books.

Game of Thrones is an outlier, I read the books first and liked the first book especially, but enjoyed the series more than the books.
GoT the series was pretty damn good seasons 1-4. One of the best, if not the best, fantasy shows of all time. I'd say books 1-3 were better than seasons 1-3, but they were all outstanding. George lost his damn mind with book for, so season 4 wins in a landslide. After season 4, the show tanked. Slowly at first, then quickly circling the drain. The awful Dorne premier, the senselessly making Sansa an idiot all over again, the awful fixation on Ramsay, etc. But seasons 1-4 were freaking nails.
 

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Just finished episode 4. It’s entertaining, but a bit frustrating that they’re not really sticking with the books. It’s basically a completely new adaptation, which is fine, it just wasn’t what I was expecting.

With that said, my wife and I are enjoying it.
 

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GoT the series was pretty damn good seasons 1-4. One of the best, if not the best, fantasy shows of all time. I'd say books 1-3 were better than seasons 1-3, but they were all outstanding. George lost his damn mind with book for, so season 4 wins in a landslide. After season 4, the show tanked. Slowly at first, then quickly circling the drain. The awful Dorne premier, the senselessly making Sansa an idiot all over again, the awful fixation on Ramsay, etc. But seasons 1-4 were freaking nails.
Season 5 was so bad my wife and I stopped watching and have never had the desire to finish it. George got arrogant and thought he could do whatever he wanted with his characters, no matter how preposterous their change of motive was, and fully believed his audience were his sheep and would keep throwing money at him worshiping his greatness.

But yes, Season 1-4 were really good.
 

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Just finished Season 1. Gotta say, I loved it.

I understand people are frustrated with the adaption, but remember, this got the blessing from Brandon Sanderson and Harriet McDougal (Jordan's wife). I don't think they would have let this fly if it dishonored Robert's story. I also don't think many of the changes alter the characters too far from what the books portray. And they hit all the major points in the story:

They all start in Two Rivers
Split up at Shadar Logoth after Mat gets the dagger
Kill the Darkfriend in the small town
Struggle against the Whitecloaks
Reunite
Meet Loial
Travel the Ways
Rand confronts the "Dark One" at the EotW (and even got to use the Sa'angreal).

The only major character missing is Elayne who shows up in S2, according to IMDB. Obviously, they sacrificed Caemlyn to get more Tar Valon. Which makes sense if you think about it.

And let's face it, there is NO WAY they are making a show about the slogfest known as Books 4-11. I can see their genius in trimming all the fat from them and sprinkling their key points into the other seasons: ie. Liandrin, Logain, Suian, Nynaeve and Lan, Aes Sedai politics... This way they can still honor the story but save us from falling asleep. (There shouldn't be one thing depicted from the atrocity of Book 10. Not one thing.)

If I had one gripe it would be that they spent WAY too much time on Morraine and Lan. This story is about the five ta'veren that leave Two Rivers. They should have shaved her time down and developed the five, especially Rand. I feel like they got Mat, Perrin and the girls mostly right, but they could have used some richer development. Rand's development was almost non existent.

It's a small gripe though. Loved the actors, writing, set designs, and casting. Like the pace even though it got slow in Tar Valon (which was not in the books). I'm excited to see the Great Hunt for the Horn. I'm not excited to see the most despicable characters in the whole series... the Seanchan.
 

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Just finished Season 1. Gotta say, I loved it.

I understand people are frustrated with the adaption, but remember, this got the blessing from Brandon Sanderson and Harriet McDougal (Jordan's wife). I don't think they would have let this fly if it dishonored Robert's story. I also don't think many of the changes alter the characters too far from what the books portray. And they hit all the major points in the story:

They all start in Two Rivers
Split up at Shadar Logoth after Mat gets the dagger
Kill the Darkfriend in the small town
Struggle against the Whitecloaks
Reunite
Meet Loial
Travel the Ways
Rand confronts the "Dark One" at the EotW (and even got to use the Sa'angreal).

The only major character missing is Elayne who shows up in S2, according to IMDB. Obviously, they sacrificed Caemlyn to get more Tar Valon. Which makes sense if you think about it.

And let's face it, there is NO WAY they are making a show about the slogfest known as Books 4-11. I can see their genius in trimming all the fat from them and sprinkling their key points into the other seasons: ie. Liandrin, Logain, Suian, Nynaeve and Lan, Aes Sedai politics... This way they can still honor the story but save us from falling asleep. (There shouldn't be one thing depicted from the atrocity of Book 10. Not one thing.)

If I had one gripe it would be that they spent WAY too much time on Morraine and Lan. This story is about the five ta'veren that leave Two Rivers. They should have shaved her time down and developed the five, especially Rand. I feel like they got Mat, Perrin and the girls mostly right, but they could have used some richer development. Rand's development was almost non existent.

It's a small gripe though. Loved the actors, writing, set designs, and casting. Like the pace even though it got slow in Tar Valon (which was not in the books). I'm excited to see the Great Hunt for the Horn. I'm not excited to see the most despicable characters in the whole series... the Seanchan.
If you read (and liked) the books and had only one small gripe, I have no idea what to tell you.

Clearly you know nothing about the books if you think they got Mat "right."
 

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Just finished Season 1. Gotta say, I loved it.

I understand people are frustrated with the adaption, but remember, this got the blessing from Brandon Sanderson and Harriet McDougal (Jordan's wife). I don't think they would have let this fly if it dishonored Robert's story. I also don't think many of the changes alter the characters too far from what the books portray. And they hit all the major points in the story:

They all start in Two Rivers
Split up at Shadar Logoth after Mat gets the dagger
Kill the Darkfriend in the small town
Struggle against the Whitecloaks
Reunite
Meet Loial
Travel the Ways
Rand confronts the "Dark One" at the EotW (and even got to use the Sa'angreal).

The only major character missing is Elayne who shows up in S2, according to IMDB. Obviously, they sacrificed Caemlyn to get more Tar Valon. Which makes sense if you think about it.

And let's face it, there is NO WAY they are making a show about the slogfest known as Books 4-11. I can see their genius in trimming all the fat from them and sprinkling their key points into the other seasons: ie. Liandrin, Logain, Suian, Nynaeve and Lan, Aes Sedai politics... This way they can still honor the story but save us from falling asleep. (There shouldn't be one thing depicted from the atrocity of Book 10. Not one thing.)

If I had one gripe it would be that they spent WAY too much time on Morraine and Lan. This story is about the five ta'veren that leave Two Rivers. They should have shaved her time down and developed the five, especially Rand. I feel like they got Mat, Perrin and the girls mostly right, but they could have used some richer development. Rand's development was almost non existent.

It's a small gripe though. Loved the actors, writing, set designs, and casting. Like the pace even though it got slow in Tar Valon (which was not in the books). I'm excited to see the Great Hunt for the Horn. I'm not excited to see the most despicable characters in the whole series... the Seanchan.
Good write-up, but I think episode 8 really did the series no favors. It went totally off the rails.

I know how difficult it is to do an adaptation and some of the decisions that have to be made. But in this case, episode 8 especially, they've completely sacrificed the story. They killed off characters that not only do not die in the first book, but they are actually CRUCIAL to the final battle for books to come!

You can adapt something without making wholesale changes that have NOTHING to do with say, budget constraints. The showrunner of this show is HIGHLY inexperienced and I am flabbergasted that Amazon put this guy in charge of this series. I will continue to watch, but I don't have much hope for a lot of the storylines, starting and ending with Mat.
 
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