It's called $$$$.We couldn’t get our own players to re-sign here. There were several arguments that you can’t sign players who don’t want to come here. I don’t see that significantly changing. We will once again be one of the worse teams in the NFL.
As far as that comment is concerned, players have been known to lie about the circumstances of their departure. Not saying Byron is a liar, but how do we know that Monti offered less or a longer deal with the same average? We don't really know and teams rarely comment on these situations.We couldn’t get our own players to re-sign here. There were several arguments that you can’t sign players who don’t want to come here. I don’t see that significantly changing. We will once again be one of the worse teams in the NFL.
Over a third of the cap open with really only Hollywood needing to be resigned and you don't think that's a lot of space?Forget the number amounts, focus on % of cap. These numbers bandied about aren't huge.
Estimated $256 million cap
69 mill = 26.9%
89 mill = 34.7%
Both numbers are decent, but not a huge amount. Then it depends on what we do with Kyler.
I also don't think we're going to leverage ourselves the first year, so I doubt there's much action in pushing money out to future years.
For reference, just looking back to 2017 where the Browns were, with 168 mill salary cap. They had 110.9 mill space. If those numbers are ballpark correct, that's 66.0% of cap space.
Then to project that forward, for the Cards to be where the Browns were, we'd need to have ~169 million in cap space.
We really don't have that much.
Not only that, but if we do end up pretty terrible, players will likely look at the fact that despite an entire regime change…. the Cardinals were terrible. A terrible season with a new GM probably doesn’t help sell a narrative that things are different here now.
And what will the same people excusing the team last offseason be saying when it happens again? What will the excuses be and how much handbag clutching will there be if they get called on it?Maybe that argument gets lost… because the same exact people made the exact same argument last year when we also pretty much punted on FA.
And probably will again next off-season. Expecting the Cardinals to become big FA spenders next year is very confusing to me.
They myth of four years of cap control with a rookie QB is just that. A myth.
How is it a myth tho?
You definitely have the 4 years plus 5th year option (5 years). I am pretty sure all these QB that are signing 2nd contracts are getting extensions (starts after 5th year) not re-doing rookie deals.
As at least one example, flavor-of-the-month Joe Burrow's contract ended a year early, correct? Started in 2020?
Are you saying that it WILL happen again? And if so is the again, the next offseason?And what will the same people excusing the team last offseason be saying when it happens again? What will the excuses be and how much handbag clutching will there be if they get called on it?
I could be wrong here but his 4th year is 2023 (2020, 2021, 2022) on original rookie deal.
5th year is 2024. That is paid at $29M (standard slot for his 5th year option).
His new 5 year deal kicks in after that - in 2025.
They essentially have Burrow signed for 10 years.
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No, it's historically not. We will likely have two top end first round picks.Over a third of the cap open with really only Hollywood needing to be resigned and you don't think that's a lot of space?
It's quite a bit of space with a really good FA class.
If you're letting Murray go, you won't have cap space.No, it's historically not. We also will have likely two top-end-round picks.
We have DL'men getting 30 million a year.
That money will go quickly and our team will still be thin, and if we take a cap hitting Murray, it's basically nothing.
That's just reality. That cap space can do a few things if we don't do anything with Murray.
If you want to fill up with 2 yr 10 million dollar deals like White, you can do a lot. If you plan on getting a 15-20 million a year player, you'll likely only get 1-2 and then you're bargain shopping.
So it's not alot.If you're letting Murray go, you won't have cap space.
The Cardinals can also easily get $30 million more too.
It's plenty.So it's not alot.
Especially if we have to create room. I don't want us to create room while we suck. Makes no sense.
You do that after you've built a team and want to contend, not max out your NFL credit card to get to 8-9. (17 games lol)
Do you realize how silly it sounds when you post something like this? That “Flavor of the month” took the AFC equivalent of the Cardinals to back to back AFC Title Games, a Super Bowl and came within 50 yards of winning a Super Bowl… all by the end of his 3rd season.As at least one example, flavor-of-the-month Joe Burrow's contract ended a year early, correct? Started in 2020?
If I'm the Cardinals, I sign an interior player like a Chris Jones and a capable LG. I resign Hollywood because if you draft MHJ, the WR corps is still fairly cost controlled. Cut Ertz, cut Conner, let Budda go. Sign a cheaper safety.