The gap between us & the rest of the division

[DaHilg]

There also is a large gap between the Head Coaches in the NFL West and the Cards. McVay, Shanahan, and Macdonald are all much better than Gannon.

And the people calling the offensive plays is even a bigger disparity !!!

 

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And the people calling the offensive plays is even a bigger disparity !!!

I don't believe so. Petzing and KK were both limited by a QB who can't read a defense and can only throw the ball 10 yards downfield. Look how the offense has performed with Brissett. With the same receivers who can't run a decent route or get separation, a crappy OL and I lousy OC, he was still able to throw the ball downfield.

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[DaHilg]

I don't believe so. Petzing and KK were both limited by a QB who can't read a defense and can only throw the ball 10 yards downfield. Look how the offense has performed with Brissett. With the same receivers who can't run a decent route or get separation, a crappy OL and I lousy OC, he was still able to throw the ball downfield.

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All I have to say is lol if you think P Guy has been anything but dog poop..

And Kliffys offense has looked great even when Daniels was healthy this year right ?

Come on.. don’t let Kyler hatred bleed into this thread. Kyler sucks we all want to move on .. but the OC has been the worse I’ve seen. Absolutely no one would hire Petz as anything aside from a positional coach once he’s fired here

 

[DaHilg]

I don't believe so. Petzing and KK were both limited by a QB who can't read a defense and can only throw the ball 10 yards downfield. Look how the offense has performed with Brissett. With the same receivers who can't run a decent route or get separation, a crappy OL and I lousy OC, he was still able to throw the ball downfield.

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Also please for the love of gawd stop posting JBs yards.. does the concept more attempts = more yards mean anything ? Uh ya it does. If you ar throwing 40 times a game and can’t get 250+ yards then you shouldn’t be in the nfl

 

[phillycard]

For a

Yeah it’s bad luck we play in the NFC West. It’s just a powerhouse of a division, even in the “down years”.

Tom Brady collected 6 automatic wins for like 15 straight years playing the hopeless Dolphins, Jets, and Bills. That division was trash for soooo long.

For a good organization, (not us of course) this should be no excuse. We knew what each of our division foes were hittin' for coming into this season. These are not the opponents you get to sit back and be complacent with. We mind numbingly thought that with as bad as we played last year, YET had a position to solidify our playoff position, that it was just fine to bring the ol gang back again intact. We get what we rightfully deserve, irrelevance while the Hags, Lambs and Whiners dismiss us as stepchildren. Hope Monti and Co. are happy.

 

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Also please for the love of gawd stop posting JBs yards.. does the concept more attempts = more yards mean anything ? Uh ya it does. If you ar throwing 40 times a game and can’t get 250+ yards then you shouldn’t be in the nfl

I guess you are ignoring the fact that Brisset has the most passing yards in 3 years by a Cardinals QB.

 

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here is a passing chart from JBs game week 7. Compare it to KMs chart.

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[Mr X]

When was the last time we dominated in all phases without any hope of them coming back?

 

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[BirdGangThing]

Also please for the love of gawd stop posting JBs yards.. does the concept more attempts = more yards mean anything ? Uh ya it does. If you ar throwing 40 times a game and can’t get 250+ yards then you shouldn’t be in the nfl

sustained drives equals more attempts - hell lol - actually throwing the damn ball equals more attempts

 

[DaHilg]

I guess you are ignoring the fact that Brisset has the most passing yards in 3 years by a Cardinals QB.

Guess you are ignoring the fact he is averaging 40 attempts per a game..

 

[DaHilg]

sustained drives equals more attempts - hell lol - actually throwing the damn ball equals more attempts

Come on don’t be a clown.. go look at 3 years of game logs. JB is really lighting up the scoreboard on these “sustained drives”.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Come on don’t be a clown.. go look at 3 years of game logs. JB is really lighting up the scoreboard on these “sustained drives”.

are you saying brissett hasn't scored as much as kyler? and that im a clown?

 

[DaHilg]

are you saying brissett hasn't scored as much as kyler? and that im a clown?

Are you making this a Kyler thing to try and rattle cages? Lol. I’m saying give any QB in the NFL 40 attempts and they will get at least 250+ yards 9 times out of 10. Not sure why that’s hard to understand? Also I’d wager we are calling near the same amount of plays a game before Brissett.c

 

[DaHilg]

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lol point proven.. Jacoby had 11 more attempts for 59 more yards. Kyler is averaging a putrid 6 yards per an attempt. So in this comparison on 11 more attempts kyler would have had 66 more yards. More than BBQ lol. Try again please - hilarious

 

[iLLmatiC]

THANK YOU SIR, MAY I HAVE ANOTHER!! Our fan base doesn't demand anything better, so what do we deserve at this point?

I mean the fans are showing their discontent by not going to the games. I'm not sure what else we can do here. This team sucks. The owner sucks. I'm not spending a dime on this organization or wasting my Sunday's watching this team anymore. I'm from Arizona and will always be a fan of Arizona teams (god rest my soul) but I'm too old to put up with a crap product anymore.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Are you making this a Kyler thing to try and rattle cages? Lol. I’m saying give any QB in the NFL 40 attempts and they will get at least 250+ yards 9 times out of 10. Not sure why that’s hard to understand? Also I’d wager we are calling near the same amount of plays a game before Brissett.c

good luck with your football philosophies amigo

 

[DaHilg]

good luck with your football philosophies amigo

Not a philosophy it’s a certainty.. I’d wager everything I have that it’s a 90%+ certainty that when an NFL QB throws 40+ times they achieve 250+ yards. Pretty simple concept to understand.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Not a philosophy it’s a certainty.. I’d wager everything I have that it’s a 90%+ certainty that when an NFL QB throws 40+ times they achieve 250+ yards. Pretty simple concept to understand.

you still don't get it but it's ok

 

[DaHilg]

you still don't get it but it's ok

Spark it up bro.. sounds like it’s needed

 

[netsnjkidd]

The gap is largely QB play and QB leadership.

10000% if you dont have a guy at qb your going nowhere. The qb sets the tone of what your coach is about and provides the leadership to the players. Isnt it ironic all the most unimaginable plays in the titans game the drop td from mercado, kick fumble into the end zone, etc. Was led by our suppose franchise qb having the bloopers of the year bouncing ball of head like a soccer player and the running around in circle like bee is chasing him into a no look intentional grounding play.

 

[DVontel]

10000% if you dont have a guy at qb your going nowhere. The qb sets the tone of what your coach is about and provides the leadership to the players. Isnt it ironic all the most imaginable plays in the titans game the drop td from mercado, kick fumble into the end zone, etc. Was led by our suppose franchise qb having the bloopers of the year bouncing ball of head like a soccer player and the running around in circle like bee is chasing him into a no look intentional grounding play.

Question.


Hypothetically, say Kyler doesn’t take another snap for the Arizona Cardinals

But we still end up losing a lot of games

Where does the blame goes towards to next?

 

[BirdGangThing]

Spark it up bro.. sounds like it’s needed

you'd have to be high to get kyler murray 40 passing attempts - first of all you'd have to start by calling 50 passing plays because he only throws it 80% of the time - it's not like he's running for big numbers - just trying to get out of bounds before getting hit

secondly - and this is important - sustained drives - this leads to you guessed it - more passing attempts - but you need the deep ball for sustained drives - you need to hit multiple receivers - you need to stay in the pocket and take the hit if you have to

i think you need some weed my friend

 

[netsnjkidd]

Question.


Hypothetically, say Kyler doesn’t take another snap for the Arizona Cardinals

But we still end up losing a lot of games

Where does the blame goes towards to next?

It would depend how the loses look, but obviously the coaching

 

[DVontel]

It would depend how the loses look, but obviously the coaching

Why would it depend if we’re still losing?