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What a ride that was. S3 seems so much shorter than 1 and 2 mainly because there were so many episodes that were basically one long scene. I don't even want to know how long we're going to have to wait before S4.
 

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What a ride that was. S3 seems so much shorter than 1 and 2 mainly because there were so many episodes that were basically one long scene. I don't even want to know how long we're going to have to wait before S4.
And that was the problem. It wasn't so much a season as a bunch of disparate character studies.
 

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What a ride that was. S3 seems so much shorter than 1 and 2 mainly because there were so many episodes that were basically one long scene. I don't even want to know how long we're going to have to wait before S4.
next summer.
 

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On Season Two Ep 4. Season 1 was really good but damn stressful to watch. Season 2 feels completely different.
 

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Which is why I hold the writers guilty of dicking with the viewers and may not continue watching. Really unforgivable season, IMO.
One fluff season after two incredible seasons and you’re done? And it’s not like they’re a show who drops a season and then makes viewers wait 18 months, 2 two or even three years. They drop every summer, on schedule, the way shows used to do.

Shows as great as this was in season 1 and 2 get a mulligan in my book if they falter in season 3.
 

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Just kind of felt like stretching three seasons into four.
That’s exactly what happened. The creator always said it was a three season arc and then FX begged for 2 more seasons after Season 2. Knowing the state of the industry and how rough it is right now for everyone post-strike, I’m not going to bash the head honcho for saying yes to stretching the narrative for an extra season while providing hundreds of jobs to people for an extra year.
 

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That’s exactly what happened. The creator always said it was a three season arc and then FX begged for 2 more seasons after Season 2. Knowing the state of the industry and how rough it is right now for everyone post-strike, I’m not going to bash the head honcho for saying yes to stretching the narrative for an extra season while providing hundreds of jobs to people for an extra year.

I think that's a fair point and quite understandable in this day and age. Even with the stretched out season, it still blows away a ton of crap shows out there and it was still very enjoyable for both of us. Looking forward to S4, just not the yearlong wait. :violin:
 

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I think that's a fair point and quite understandable in this day and age. Even with the stretched out season, it still blows away a ton of crap shows out there and it was still very enjoyable for both of us. Looking forward to S4, just not the yearlong wait. :violin:
Yeah… even though I think it’s nowhere close to seasons 1 and 2, it’s not “bad”. It’s… frustrating more than anything with moments of greatness still sprinkled in.
 

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Yeah… even though I think it’s nowhere close to seasons 1 and 2, it’s not “bad”. It’s… frustrating more than anything with moments of greatness still sprinkled in.

You can admit if you needed about 20 more minutes of Lamaze breathing in a certain scene.
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You can admit if you needed about 20 more minutes of Lamaze breathing in a certain scene.
;)
Oh boy… is that yet to come in the second half of the season? Maybe I’ll get to Stout’s level of frustration after all!
 

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One fluff season after two incredible seasons and you’re done? And it’s not like they’re a show who drops a season and then makes viewers wait 18 months, 2 two or even three years. They drop every summer, on schedule, the way shows used to do.

Shows as great as this was in season 1 and 2 get a mulligan in my book if they falter in season 3.
IMO it wasn't a falter, but a middle finger and a "meh, we know you'll stick around anyway."

Finish the season and you'll see my point.
 

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The biggest issue with this whole season is there’s just almost zero Carmie in this season.

I feel like the Faks got as much screen time as he does.
 

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Did you make it to the end of S3 yet?
Yeah. I didn’t think it was horrible and as the season went on, it became pretty predictable where the split was going to happen storywise.

Beyond the story padding, the biggest disappointment to me was that it was just a pretty predictable season. The second Chef Shapiro had the brush by Sydney near the L-Train in Episode 3, I knew where that was going. Same with the review.

And I didn’t think the finale was jam-packed with cameos. Maybe that’s because there’s a bunch of people that don’t I’m not familiar with.

Overall, I’d give the season a B-. Nothing close to unforgivable.
 
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We just jumped into this and binged the 1st four S1 episodes. It's our new indulgence.
 

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Yeah. I didn’t think it was horrible and as the season went on, it became pretty predictable where the split was going to happen storywise.

Beyond the story padding, the biggest disappointment to me was that it was just a pretty predictable season. The second Chef Shapiro had the brush by Sydney near the L-Train in Episode 3, I knew where that was going. Same with the review.

And I didn’t think the finale was jam-packed with cameos. Maybe that’s because there’s a bunch of people that don’t I’m not familiar with.

Overall, I’d give the season a B-. Nothing close to unforgivable.
Nothing close to unforgivable? We're going to spin our wheels all season with character pieces, set up a big arc, and just...say meh, come back next season? No, we're not actually going to deliver on what we promised all season? We're going to just keep Carmy the way he is except for a few seconds at the end? What kind of effed up season arc is that? What kind of lazy BS writing is that?

Nah, not cool in my book. C- at best, because there was good content. If the finale had paid off, then yeah, I could see my way to a B-. Like you said, you'll get softer seasons with, and besides, there was definitely a lot of good content. Sad that they couldn't smash together a coherent season out of it.

Basically, the lure of money screwed this season up like it usually does to shows. Understandably so, from a showrunner perspective, because they don't have generational wealth. So when you're offered a giant bag to go from "I have a tight 3-season arc" to "Can you stretch this out more?" you get really poopy middle fingers to the fans with what we got to end that season.

Edit: To put it simply, these mfers gave us half a season, called it a season, and said, "Eh, they'll come back for more." Basically, we're all suckers that'll watch anyway, so let's troll the audience and get more seasons and more money. Absolute *******.
 
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Nothing close to unforgivable? We're going to spin our wheels all season with character pieces, set up a big arc, and just...say meh, come back next season? No, we're not actually going to deliver on what we promised all season? We're going to just keep Carmy the way he is except for a few seconds at the end? What kind of effed up season arc is that? What kind of lazy BS writing is that?

Nah, not cool in my book. C- at best, because there was good content. If the finale had paid off, then yeah, I could see my way to a B-. Like you said, you'll get softer seasons with, and besides, there was definitely a lot of good content. Sad that they couldn't smash together a coherent season out of it.

Basically, the lure of money screwed this season up like it usually does to shows. Understandably so, from a showrunner perspective, because they don't have generational wealth. So when you're offered a giant bag to go from "I have a tight 3-season arc" to "Can you stretch this out more?" you get really poopy middle fingers to the fans with what we got to end that season.
I love that ishhy autocorrects to poopy :D
 

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