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Morey had a analytics based philosophy and a master at maximizing assets... until the last couple seasons. In their desperation to get over the hump they made some moves that went against the methodology that got them to the brink. Stuff like signing Carmelo and trading for Westbrook, players that did not fit the analytics that the team had been built around. They have used up virtually all their trade capital in order to build a roster that seems significantly worse than it was a couple seasons ago.

They really over extended themselves. Virtually all their draft picks for the next SIX years are owed to other teams, they have no cap space for years, James Harden is probably their only asset that would give them a good haul in a trade.

Morey got out while before the ship sank. If the new GM isn't a miracle worker that franchise is about to go down the drain.

While I agree with your analysis I thought Morey might be the one GM to get them out of this mess. I was eagerly awaiting his next move. I guess sooner or later a magician runs out of tricks.

They almost have to trade Harden.

I can't find much on their roster the Suns would want other than Robert Covington.
 

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While I agree with your analysis I thought Morey might be the one GM to get them out of this mess. I was eagerly awaiting his next move. I guess sooner or later a magician runs out of tricks.

They almost have to trade Harden.

I can't find much on their roster the Suns would want other than Robert Covington.

He can leave now without having to say he failed to retool the Rockets so I can see why he did it. His resume looks a little better now than if he were fired in a year or he waited another season to step down. He'll be in a much better position with just about any other team in the league. I expect to see him GM elsewhere by 2022.
 

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He can leave now without having to say he failed to retool the Rockets so I can see why he did it. His resume looks a little better now than if he were fired in a year or he waited another season to step down. He'll be in a much better position with just about any other team in the league. I expect to see him GM elsewhere by 2022.

Daryl Morey doesn't strike me as one to abandon a sinking ship. I suspect he was nudged towards the door.
 

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Rockets and NBA lose esteemed scout BJ Johnson.

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Peter Dinwiddie reportedly to be hired as Executive VP of Basketball Operations for 76ers.

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There are a few other guys, ahem - Kawhi, that could be considered that as of today. But whatever. If you think he's still the best today then more power to you.
Aka load management will get you nowhere. Lebron is the there night after night.
 

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Aka load management will get you nowhere. Lebron is the there night after night.

Uh Lebron does plenty of load management.

it’s just his teammates play there role and know he’s the guy that can get them to the promised land.

the Clippers on the other hand have a bunch of role players who think there stars and are on the same level as Kawhi
 

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Uh Lebron does plenty of load management.

it’s just his teammates play there role and know he’s the guy that can get them to the promised land.

the Clippers on the other hand have a bunch of role players who think there stars and are on the same level as Kawhi
Uh Lebron played 67/71 games (night after night) vs Leonard 57/71 games (load management).
Lebron is on a different level as far as being a leader and knows how to get the most out of teammates. Leonard is a great player but pales in comparison as a leader. Leaders lead by example by playing, not load managing.
As they always say, you’re best ability is your availability. Lebron is still the best player in the league hands down.
 

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Uh Lebron played 67/71 games (night after night) vs Leonard 57/71 games (load management).
Lebron is on a different level as far as being a leader and knows how to get the most out of teammates. Leonard is a great player but pales in comparison as a leader. Leaders lead by example by playing, not load managing.
As they always say, you’re best ability is your availability. Lebron is still the best player in the league hands down.
I agree with everything except your last statement.
 

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I agree with everything except your last statement.

When I say best player, I include results which is the end goal.
There are many great players, but empty stats mean little at the end of the day.
 

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When I say best player, I include results which is the end goal.
There are many great players, but empty stats mean little at the end of the day.
Just because someone doesn’t have a title doesn’t mean they aren’t the best player.
 

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Uh Lebron played 67/71 games (night after night) vs Leonard 57/71 games (load management).
Lebron is on a different level as far as being a leader and knows how to get the most out of teammates. Leonard is a great player but pales in comparison as a leader. Leaders lead by example by playing, not load managing.
As they always say, you’re best ability is your availability. Lebron is still the best player in the league hands down.

And last year in a full 82 game season he played 55.

so I guess Tim Duncan wasn’t a leader either huh
 

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And last year in a full 82 game season he played 55.

so I guess Tim Duncan wasn’t a leader either huh
What were Duncan’s stats last year lol.
Current events- not a historical discussion.

Lebron was injured last year- not load managed. Big difference. Even Leonard’s teammates were pissed about all the load management- see how that turned out.
 

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Morey had a analytics based philosophy and a master at maximizing assets... until the last couple seasons. In their desperation to get over the hump they made some moves that went against the methodology that got them to the brink. Stuff like signing Carmelo and trading for Westbrook, players that did not fit the analytics that the team had been built around. They have used up virtually all their trade capital in order to build a roster that seems significantly worse than it was a couple seasons ago.

They really over extended themselves. Virtually all their draft picks for the next SIX years are owed to other teams, they have no cap space for years, James Harden is probably their only asset that would give them a good haul in a trade.

Morey got out while before the ship sank. If the new GM isn't a miracle worker that franchise is about to go down the drain.

Totally agreed.
 
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