That’s Why You Fire Kliff

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See you in the 1st preseason game of 2022 thread :mrgreen:
Truth be told, this website is open in tabs on every computer, lap top, and device I use. I’m in this forum everyday throughout the day, from my couch, my back patio, on aircraft, from South America, the Yucatán peninsula, glacier national park, 52 miles south of cottonwood on the verde river, and even gets peered in on while in the middle of the desert, taking a little break from chasing coveys of scared and screaming quail.

I’ll be here daily, hoping to discuss changes this organization will be implementing soon.
 

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Truth be told, this website is open in tabs on every computer, lap top, and device I use. I’m in this forum everyday throughout the day, from my couch, my back patio, on aircraft, from South America, the Yucatán peninsula, glacier national park, 52 miles south of cottonwood on the verde river, and even gets peered in on while in the middle of the desert, taking a little break from chasing coveys of scared and screaming quail.

I’ll be here daily, hoping to discuss changes this organization will be implementing soon.
Yep, me too. Just havin’ a little fun.
 

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One thing that is under discussed on the board is Murray going to Bidwill and telling him there needs to be a new coach for more success. That is a no zero probability and the single reason why Kliff may not return in 2022.
 

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think we'll get that today? i want to hear from keim
The last time i heard him was months a go, pretty weird for nfl gm, but has more responsibility the man who stick with him
Fans should ask for a new ownership
Yesterday worldwide was on video the longest franchise droughts in the USA sports
4 franchise included the Cardinals, what a shame
 

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Bidwill needs to make at least two immediate changes. Fire VJ and insist KK get a real NFL OC.
 

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The last time i heard him was months a go, pretty weird for nfl gm, but has more responsibility the man who stick with him
Fans should ask for a new ownership
Yesterday worldwide was on video the longest franchise droughts in the USA sports
4 franchise included the Cardinals, what a shame
Cardinals are a notoriously a secretive organization. Almost no news ever leaks without them ever leaking for their own benefit..They interact very limited with media as a policy and only talk to their pseudo PR team at 98.7. Don't trust their motives. They isolate any local media that talks negative or asks tough questions to them slowly but eventually.
 

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Cardinals are a notoriously a secretive organization. Almost no news ever leaks without them ever leaking for their own benefit..They interact very limited with media as a policy and only talk to their pseudo PR team at 98.7. Don't trust their motives. They isolate any local media that talks negative or asks tough questions to them slowly but eventually.
Why this happens?
Media are getting something in return?
U can't really isolate professional journalism
Fanbase disinterested?
 

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Why this happens?
Media are getting something in return?
U can't really isolate professional journalism
Fanbase disinterested?
Limited Market scope is the main reason.

They know enough buy season tickets for a profit and that is all they need.

Winning is good but not required IMO.
 

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Limited Market scope is the main reason.

They know enough buy season tickets for a profit and that is all they need.

Winning is good but not required IMO.
So the solution is getting ride of the Bidwill house and move the franchise elsewhere?
 

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So the solution is getting ride of the Bidwill house and move the franchise elsewhere?
See that is how they have you by the b*lls as this is a potent question without a good answer.
 

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Screaming A Smith sums it up very well at the tail end of this piece:

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Cardinals are a notoriously a secretive organization. Almost no news ever leaks without them ever leaking for their own benefit..They interact very limited with media as a policy and only talk to their pseudo PR team at 98.7. Don't trust their motives. They isolate any local media that talks negative or asks tough questions to them slowly but eventually.
Bickley's column today is titled "Kliff Kingsburry has to go"

For what its worth.

I think that local media speaks very highly of Michael Bidwill, but I think they are fairly critical of FO and Coaches.

I would clean house at this point, with the hope that Kyler is worth salvaging. You don't want to go into next year with a lame duck HC...so its either extend Kliff or fire him, and after last night you have to lean towards firing him. If thats the decision, then its also a perfect time to part ways with Keim. Like I said though, I would actually keep Keim but take all draft responsibilities away from him. If he wasn't on board with that I would let him walk.
 
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