Taking a QB at #3: Is it really that far fetched?

[football karma]

i think Kylers attitude next year -- even if he plays only 6 games -- will go a long way to determining what the 2024 draft target will be

because if he doesnt play at all (for example) -- i think QB jumps to the top of the list

 

[BirdGangThing]

When you've overpaid for a house last thing you want to do is buy another house

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I would. I would ship him for a 2nd this year and a conditional next year no problem but I understand I am in the minority. Hard to believe the owner who just paid him, a GM and a HC would be in agreement with me on this.

It is easy when it isn't our 90M to spend I guess.

 

[oaken1]

this is impressive

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[Goldfield]

I disagree. I think we are where we are now because of Kyler the person and our lack of self esteem as a franchise. We stupidly gave Kyler the VIP treatment day 1 and he stupidly ran with it. A lot of guys would have had the awareness to say they want to be treated like any other rookie, want the team to see him earn it, or many other things that natural leaders inherently know. A lot of franchises would be smart enough to not put their young QB in the position to have to do that.

Can’t argue with this. Agree completely. I didn’t like extending him a year early, but I hated extending the coach and GM even more.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Far fetched? Hell, it's even farther than Uncle Rico can throw a ball in his dreams

 

[Goldfield]

If there was a top franchise QB I wouldn’t hesitate to draft them. Kyler has been very up and down. So if there was an obvious upgrade I do it. We can revisit this question next year also if Kyler doesn’t show well after his injury.

Take the Defense stud and if both are gone I take the best trade down offer and let the rebuild begin.

 

[BirdGangThing]

this is impressive

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We really need to re-sign Allen and Murphy

 

[Russ Smith]

Again if Caleb Williams was in the draft yes you consider it. THere isn't a guy in this draft that's guaranteed to be any better than Kyler. Young is really good, has a feel for the position, but he's undersized and doesn't have a great arm. He might wind up being great, lots of stuff said on him was said about Burrow(the arm) and he's terrific, but it's a risk. Stroud, he looked great against Georgia but he's played his whole career surrounded with first round draft picks at WR and a big strong OL. He won't have that in Arizona(hopefully the Wr group will be strong). Levis and Richardson who knows, physical talent but nobody is sure how good they are going to be.

If Anderson is there I take him, if not but Carter is I take him, if both are somehow gone then I'm trying to trade down a few spots to someone who wants a QB.

 

[TJ]

Not this season,but 2024 if Kyler’s attitude doesn’t shape up, you do whatever you can to get a QB to compete with him

 

[Outerlimits]

Not going to happen. Granted, we do need to bring in someone to be the starting QB for much of next season. Colt McCoy is ok for a game or two but not for numerous games (and perhaps the majority of the season)

 

[Jasper]

this is impressive

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Philly had some really good drafts. How do we compare?

 

[WiscoBird]

I don't think we are going to be very good next year. I think we will be in the Caleb Williams race next year. I'm not a big believer in Murray, but I don't think anyone in this class is a can't miss QB. Draft the best defensive player and start stacking talent.

 

[cardpa]

Personally I wouldn't touch an OSU QB until one proves he can play in the NFL. Of all the OSU QBs taken in the draft, if Stroud is successful, he will be the first OSU QB to do it. The list of OSU QBs drafted is like a whos who of busted draft picks.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Personally I wouldn't touch an OSU QB until one proves he can play in the NFL. Of all the OSU QBs taken in the draft, if Stroud is successful, he will be the first OSU QB to do it. The list of OSU QBs drafted is like a whos who of busted draft picks.

Really???? Where's that long list of 1st round OSU QB's drafted?
There's Fields who the jury is still very much out on. Haskins who had three HC's within 1 year of playing and was drafted into a horrible situation where his original HC didn't want him but the owner did. Granted, he did himself no favors by being an idiot but it was as bad a situation as a guy could be drafted.

Then there's...............let's go back to 1982 and Art Schlicther for the next 1st round QB. If you really want to lengthen the list, you can go back to 1941 and Don Scott.

So four 1st round QB's in 80 years. Not exactly a who's who. Going by memory, I think only Bobby Hoying was a 2nd rounder in all those years. It's not like OSU has been flooding the NFL with legit QB prospects that have flamed out.

I'm not a Stroud fan but let's not let facts get in the way of hyperbole.

 

[QuebecCard]

It isn't far fetched but highly unlikely. You have to have an owner, GM and HC all on board with making the move and find a suitable trade partner for a injured player. You can't draft a QB at 3 and keep Kyler.

Distinctions without a difference.

 

[SECTION 11]

Same concept but less risk, take Hooker later in the draft.

 

[Snakester]

As much as I want us to stay put at 3 and take a star defensive player I have no confidence in Murray growing up and being the leader he needs to be. If we drafted Will Levis I would be fine with that. I have a feeling the new GM will trade out and acquire more picks though.

 

[slanidrac16]

No..a 1000 no. We need to invest in the guts of this team and we HAVE to get it right.
However I would have no problem taking a Qb in the 4th round or later if a quality guy slips. They’re out there.

 

[Chopper0080]

As much as I want us to stay put at 3 and take a star defensive player I have no confidence in Murray growing up and being the leader he needs to be. If we drafted Will Levis I would be fine with that. I have a feeling the new GM will trade out and acquire more picks though.

I agree that I expect Monti to trade back from #3 and I am going to be frustrated when he does.

 

[QuebecCard]

As much as I want us to stay put at 3 and take a star defensive player I have no confidence in Murray growing up and being the leader he needs to be. If we drafted Will Levis I would be fine with that. I have a feeling the new GM will trade out and acquire more picks though.

Are you saying you expect Monti to trade down with Anderson or Carter still on the board?

 

[Chopper0080]

Are you saying you expect Monti to trade down with Anderson or Carter still on the board?

I don't think you were asking me, but I do.

 

[QuebecCard]

I don't think you were asking me, but I do.

Frankly, my imagination can't go that far.

Mind you; evaluations may change between now and the draft and then it may make sense.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

I hope we either pick up a free-agent QB or draft one at some point this offseason. Not with the 3rd pick though.

 

[redheat]

Good time to tank next season and get another high pick for a better qb class.