Takeaways from the first 5 weeks of the NFL season - Cardinals

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I just needed to get some thoughts down on what I feel I have seen so far this year.

1 - Kyler is done in AZ. I'm gonna lean in on this because there is obviously a path where he stays, I just don't feel it is likely. However you decide to rank Kyler in terms of being a QB, it all comes down to the fact that he isn't good enough t win in AZ. His career can go a lot of ways when he leaves, and we will see which it is. He wasn't a bust, but his career in AZ has been obviously a little underwhelming.

2 - Petzing has a decent playbook, but he doesn't seem to know how to use it. Brit has highlighted some aspects of the passing scheme that do work and are not being executed. The challenge is being a playcaller is more than just having a good playbook. Initial call sheet. Game flow. In game adjustments. How to get certain players involved. Manipulating defenses so you can maintain your identify. It's these other areas that Petzing seems to be deficient and why he is likely not back at the end of the year (at least as a OC).

3 - The offensive coaching staff is not good (as a whole). Too many details are being consistently missed for it to ALL be on the players. Route depth and leverage. Sight adjustments. Miscommunication. Uncertainty in pressure situations. Mental mistakes. The line has regressed. The WRs have not progressed. The QB has not progressed. Again, some of this is on the players, but you have to demand the details as a coach to see who wants to get better.

4 - Monti has kinda failed to get the offensive line where it needs to be. The "kinda" comes from the fact that these same players did better last year with a different coach. Adams has looked bad under both coaches so he may just be a future backup ala OT Josh Jones. Evan Brown was always mid at best and supposed to be a placeholder. Both Fro and Will are older players who may have peaked. Monti doesn't have any young players other than PJJ who have shown anything.

5 - On that note, many on this board have commented on the need for a vertical WR to create space for the offense. Monti has crapped the bed there. I don't know that Kyler is the guy to translate that player into yards and get the expected return on value, but it is still a need.

6 - Gannon is going to be the HC in 2026 and in 2027. There is my hot take.

7 - I have been pretty happy with the defense. I think the inexperience at the CB position has led to more soft coverage which has led to a lot of yards allowed. IMO the quality of the calls and aggressiveness has come in the key moments.

8 - So many injuries to the defensive front and CB positions. Nolen has been a huge disappointment but just because I was excited to watch him play. I can tell Rallis is having to play some players more than he wants and is trying to protect them to a degree.

9 - The EDGE room has developed nicely. I expected a little more production from Burch but he has played ok, Collins has applied a little more pressure than normal, and Browning continues to apply pressure but fails to finish. I thought Sweat would get more snaps (51.8% on the year) but he has been productive. It's not a perfect room by any stretch, but it is something to build on.

10 - A little out of sequence, but depending on the cost, I might kick the tires on Breece Hall if I could sign him to an extension. I don't think he solves the running game in 2025, but moving on from Conner feels like a given and Benson hasn't shown anything that makes you confident he can be RB1 vs 1B or 2. I like Hall's broken tackles per attempt stats (very close to Conner's) as well as his ability to break off big runs. This offense needs ways to create big plays out of the running game.

11 - Will Johnson can play in the league as a zone CB. Hopefully he can stay healthy so we can see his growth over the course of the season.

12 - So much of Monti's resume has been impacted by injuries. Stills has turned out to be one of his best picks and it is almost entirely because Stills has stayed healthy.

13 - If Monti gets fired in the next 2/3 seasons, he can look back to the 2024 season as a primary reason. It's wasn't all bad, but the production he got from FA signings Jonah Williams, SMB, Justin Jones, and Bilal Nichols along with his 3rd round faceplant ultimately was more of a step backwards than forwards.

14 - I could go on and on about the 2024 draft and the many ways Monti misjudged it. There was a real path to a franchise changing draft based on prior perception to the draft class, but Monti chose volume over quality. Such a whiff. It's a tough rant via message board, but maybe one day I will drive to see fellow Colorado resident @dreamcastrocks and subject him to it.



All I can think of right now. I will post other takeaways as they pop up in my brain.
 

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I do not think a thing can be argued on your list.

Stills being one of his best 5 picks is telling. At least they hit about 50% on the secondary picks.

Part of the Future (10 of 28)
PJJ
Will Johnson
Donte Stills
Dadrion Taylor-Demerson
Max Melton
Michael Wilson
Marvin Harrison Jr.
Denzel Burke
Kei'Trel Clark
Jordan Burch

Injury Unknowns (5 of 28)
Tip Reiman
Darius Robinson
Trey Benson
Walter Nolen
Garrett Williams

Too soon (1 of 28)
Kitan Crawford

12 of 28 picks wasted, potentially more
 

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@PDXChris how is Garrett Williams an injury unknown? Yea he’s hurt but not for the year we’ve been told. His play has more than spoken for itself to the point of his latest non season ending injury.

How is he an unknown? Do you some how expect this short stint IR to be career defining somehow?
 
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This is an excellent analysis imo. I agree that JG isn't going anywhere. But the offensive staff is nowhere near where it needs to be even with the o-line defiencies.
As far as Kyler is concerned, it may depend in part on the new OC and his qb coach.

If McDaniels is let go by Miami would you consider him? That is if he would come here.
 

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@PDXChris how is Garrett Williams an injury unknown? Yea he’s hurt but not for the year we’ve been told. His play has more than spoken for itself to the point of his latest non season ending injury.

How is he an unknown? Do you some how expect this short sting IR to be career defining somehow?

You never know how players are going to come back form knee injuries and since the Cardinals hate sharing details, he is an unknown for me. I moved home back and fourth.

Career as of this week
Played 27
Missed 12

And hes due for an extension this off season.
 

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@PDXChris how is Garrett Williams an injury unknown? Yea he’s hurt but not for the year we’ve been told. His play has more than spoken for itself to the point of his latest non season ending injury.

How is he an unknown? Do you some how expect this short sting IR to be career defining somehow?
Yup, I was going to say same thing. Williams should be considered a hit as a pick.
 

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Based on everything before 3-4 corners got injured, I’d really hesitate to put Clark on the Part of the Future tier. The coaches have shown they’ll do all they can to keep him off the field.

Cody Simon should be on that list somewhere also.
 

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Yup, I was going to say same thing. Williams should be considered a hit as a pick.
Im not saying hit or misses, I saying who is going to be part of the future vs not. Williams is great on the field. The unknown is a second knee injury in 3 years. Are you going to extend him at $10+ million a year? I don't know and that is an unknown.

Byron Murphy signed a 3 year contract with the Minnesota Vikings worth $54. That's the going rate. I hope we keep him.
 
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@PDXChris how is Garrett Williams an injury unknown? Yea he’s hurt but not for the year we’ve been told. His play has more than spoken for itself to the point of his latest non season ending injury.

How is he an unknown? Do you some how expect this short sting IR to be career defining somehow?
Injury details for GWilliams are sparse. It's an unspecified knee injury and potentially an ACL/MCL. That would be his second major knee injury since 2022. Not great for a DB.
 
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This is an excellent analysis imo. I agree that JG isn't going anywhere. But the offensive staff is nowhere near where it needs to be even with the o-line defiencies.
As far as Kyler is concerned, it may depend in part on the new OC and his qb coach.

If McDaniels is let go by Miami would you consider him? That is if he would come here.
Sure. I think there are several OC options that would make sense but their willingness to come to AZ is always the question.
 

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Sure. I think there are several OC options that would make sense but their willingness to come to AZ is always the question.

A lot will depend on how the candidates feel/are pitched about Gannon’s future. Good guys won’t want to come to get fired after a year or two years. Retreads will.

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Injury details for GWilliams are sparse. It's an unspecified knee injury and potentially an ACL/MCL. That would be his second major knee injury since 2022. Not great for a DB.
if it was an acl pretty sure he would be on season ending IR and not designated to return no?
 

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5 - On that note, many on this board have commented on the need for a vertical WR to create space for the offense. Monti has crapped the bed there. I don't know that Kyler is the guy to translate that player into yards and get the expected return on value, but it is still a need.
I think this staff didn't see much of a need for the vertical WR in this offense. He wouldn't get the ball anyway!
They are having a hard time incorporating the #4 overall pick in the offense.
 

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early festivus:

Monti:

His stated philosophy is that the game is won in the trenches. His revealed philosophy is that he thinks "just good enough" will win in the trenches. His failure to upgrade the interior OL is negligence -- especially considering who they play in the division. I would think the two Seattle games last year would have burned an idea in his head that an upgrade was really needed.

This offseason, the coaching staff talked about getting more explosives (one of three keys to winning per his head coach) -- yet no WR added in FA, the draft or really even UDFA. Another example of accepting what he thought was "good enough".

Gannon/Coaches: Where has the bravado gone? So risk averse this year. After five games this trend is clear: the D plays pretty well for the first 50 minutes, but then allows every QB they face to turn into Tom Brady for the final 10. Im scared to look up the Cardinal passer rating allowed in the 4th quarter of games. Yet -- JG continues to be ok with turning the ball over to the other team with time on the clock to close out games.

The utter cluster of "I didnt like the call on 3rd and 8, but i let my OC call plays (who also didnt like it)" would be the only sentence needed to justify firing for cause.
 

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There is definitely a mutual parting of the ways coming with Murray. I am sure he wants off this train as well.
I hope so. That way I can watch him go be mediocre somewhere else. Yeah we’ll be terrible but a fresh start and a new topic to talk about on this board.
 

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I hope so. That way I can watch him go be mediocre somewhere else. Yeah we’ll be terrible but a fresh start and a new topic to talk about on this board.
The Cardinal way would be for him to be a pro-bowl player for multiple seasons if we let him go. Still willing to take the chance though...
 

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I hope so. That way I can watch him go be mediocre somewhere else. Yeah we’ll be terrible but a fresh start and a new topic to talk about on this board.
I don’t think it will happen

But how funny would it be if he actually got with a real QB coach & turned his career around once he’s out of Arizona?

Man
 

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I don’t think it will happen

But how funny would it be if he actually got with a real QB coach & turned his career around once he’s out of Arizona?

Man
Would be so cardinalesque
 
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