Takeaways from Cardinals’ mandatory minicamp

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We haven't won a playoff game since 2015! Can you even remember what 2015 was like at this point?

The fact that guys like Bidwill/Kendrick get virtually no public pushback is crazy. We desperately need our own billionaire owners, because AZ sports are frighteningly uncompetitive of late, basically across the board.
 

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It's crazy for sure

Sad for us fans since the franchise improving over the next 5 years is dim
Yeah, at this point it's pretty much Kyler goes super sayan, or we're in big trouble.

Remember how we all felt about halfway through the Cards and Suns seasons? Like both teams were invincible with incredible potential for the future? All those visions are looking mighty cloudy these days.
 

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We haven't won a playoff game since 2015! Can you even remember what 2015 was like at this point?

The fact that guys like Bidwill/Kendrick get virtually no public pushback is crazy. We desperately need our own billionaire owners, because AZ sports are frighteningly uncompetitive of late, basically across the board.
The Suns were in the NBA Finals last year and the Cards just made the playoffs.
 

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Yeah, at this point it's pretty much Kyler goes super sayan, or we're in big trouble.

Remember how we all felt about halfway through the Cards and Suns seasons? Like both teams were invincible with incredible potential for the future? All those visions are looking mighty cloudy these days.
funny, because both teams are suffering one of their superstars turning into a malcontent. more so with ayton, for sure, but kyler has had a rather dreadful offseason
 

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Not great, but neither have any actual evidence of being "frighteningly uncompetitive." Both teams would have to fall pretty far to reach that level.
Suns - before last year, hadn't reached the PLAYOFFS 10 seasons in a row
Cards - one playoff appearance since 2015 - every other team in our division has been to the Super Bowl TWICE in the last 10 years
D-Backs - lol, Goldy putting up MVP #'s, D-Backs completely irrelevant

The recent history hasn't been good- I'm skeptical that anyone in charge of any of the big 3, (from ownership to management) are the right people to lead any of the local franchises forward.
 

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funny, because both teams are suffering one of their superstars turning into a malcontent. more so with ayton, for sure, but kyler has had a rather dreadful offseason
If Kyler understood how to use his agent and the media, it wouldn't have been dreadful. He wants a new contract as he wants to get paid before the season where he is expected to improve on a playoff appearance season. The Cardinals, in kind of a silly manner, feel like they have to give it to him. Basically their organizational insecurity has created an inequitable balance between the franchise and Kyler. If they had any fortitude they would have said to Kyler to win a playoff game before demanding one of the highest contracts in the league a year early. They didn't and here we are.
 

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If Kyler understood how to use his agent and the media, it wouldn't have been dreadful. He wants a new contract as he wants to get paid before the season where he is expected to improve on a playoff appearance season. The Cardinals, in kind of a silly manner, feel like they have to give it to him. Basically their organizational insecurity has created an inequitable balance between the franchise and Kyler. If they had any fortitude they would have said to Kyler to win a playoff game before demanding one of the highest contracts in the league a year early. They didn't and here we are.
yup, record breaking contract to be announced in the coming weeks, and kyler will be in front of the media happy as can be, "this is where I always wanted to be"
 

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If Kyler understood how to use his agent and the media, it wouldn't have been dreadful. He wants a new contract as he wants to get paid before the season where he is expected to improve on a playoff appearance season. The Cardinals, in kind of a silly manner, feel like they have to give it to him. Basically their organizational insecurity has created an inequitable balance between the franchise and Kyler. If they had any fortitude they would have said to Kyler to win a playoff game before demanding one of the highest contracts in the league a year early. They didn't and here we are.

Straight to a ridiculous proposition without passing by the sublime.

Kyler can only guarantee his effort, and there is nothing out of the ordinary in seeking a new long-term deal at this point.
 
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