Suns updates and discussion for the 2019-20 season

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  1. AzStevenCal

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    I wish. With being "penny wise and pound foolish" there's always a chance your blind squirrel will find an edible nut. Money has always been a factor for Sarver (true for most owners too) but for the first time ever, IMO, every decision this organization makes will be driven almost entirely by short term financial goals.
     
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    You must not remember the Kurt Thomas trade...
     
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    I don't get the connection? It doesn't challenge or refute a single aspect of my post. He has made decisions that were driven by the bottom line before, I just believe we are looking at a period here where EVERY decision he makes will not only be financially driven but viewed through a short term perspective. IOW, if you thought he was cheap before, you ain't seen nothing yet.
     
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    When the Kurt Thomas trade was made, every decision was only driven from a short term financial perspective, as the Kurt Thomas trade illustrated. They gave up a first round pick just to save a year of salary. They were also selling off their own first round picks at the time. It is a big reason, in addition to total mismanagement because Sarver wouldn't pay Kerr to stick around, that the bottom fell out last decade. If we are returning to that, this franchise is toast.
     
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    There was a period after selling draft picks (Gortat) and the Kurt Thomas trade where Sarver didn't seem as consumed with saving money. Do you think the selling of their G-league franchise starts a new era of thriftiness for the Sun?

    I guess I could answer this for you but I like the conversation.
     
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    Thanks to a very generous national TV contract, this franchise has been making good money for a few years and when that's the case, Sarver has shown himself willing to spend. He really does want to win and he knows that's the best thing for the bottom line in the long run. But he really, really, really does not want to lose money. He's proven he will sacrifice wins for the bottom line when he deems it necessary and IMO, with the loss of so much revenue and the increased covid related costs, it is now necessary.

    I think dismantling this team (aka trading Booker) is the last thing he wants to do but I would not put anything past him right now, I think the financial situation is that dire. The best we can hope for is either a very quick return to pre-CVD19 normalcy or a very rich buyer. Obviously, that's all JMO.
     
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    I'm hoping the NBA will subsidize or spread out losses over a number of years so teams and players don't feel the pinch as much. The NFL did something like this. If the Suns do not make the moves necessary to make the Suns a playoff team this season, I think we will hear the dreaded talk Booker wants out next summer if not earlier.

    If I were Sarver (obviously I'm not), I would be a buyer this summer with money tight and hope to recoup the money later. Sort of like buying stock when it's low. I'm not expecting this though. I'm not allowing myself the fantasy of Sarver selling the team which would be the optimal solution. My fear is the Suns will trade Oubre for a draft pick in a cash dump. Some fans may not view it for what it is.
     
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    The last person I want mentoring Ayton is Kaminsky, who is ridiculously soft, contact averse and obsessed with hanging out at the three point line. Might explain a lot of the negatives we have been seeing from Ayton of late...
     
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    I work much cheaper. :D
     
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    Well they didn’t guarantee Amare’s contract offer and ended up signing Childress and Warrick for less than Amare’s insured deal would’ve been.
     
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    Those are some bad memories. As I recall Turkoglu was a replacement piece as well.
     
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    Yeah, and we traded away Barbosa to pick him up. That was the summer Sarver was his own GM, I believe...
     

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