Suns Off Season Changes for 2025: Trades, Buyouts, GM, Coaches, etc.

[GatorAZ]

Vassell is 6'5" and not big or strong enough to play SF. He's also not a good enough ball handler or passer to play PG. He's signed for $27m a year for the next 3 years to a position we're already paying $120+ to 3 guys who play there as good or better than he does.

He was 6’5” when he was a 19 year old rookie. He’s a good player and positive asset. Idc about wins and fit next year.

 

[Hoop Head]

He was 6’5” when he was a 19 year old rookie. He’s a good player and positive asset. Idc about wins and fit next year.

I don't care much about wins anymore but if we take on Vassell then his value will go down because we'll have a plethora of SG's. Like when we had multiple PG's a decade back, we couldn't get high value from them as we were in a position where everyone knew we had to sell and sell low. If we can find a 3rd team to take Vassell then we might be onto something.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I don't care much about wins anymore but if we take on Vassell then his value will go down because we'll have a plethora of SG's. Like when we had multiple PG's a decade back, we couldn't get high value from them as we were in a position where everyone knew we had to sell and sell low. If we can find a 3rd team to take Vassell then we might be onto something.

Besides Devin, who is included in this plethora? If they can’t rid themselves of Beal, I think they John Wall his ass and tell him to stay home or just park his ass on the bench.

 

[clyde2tw]

Bartlestein is a closer. I wouldn't write him off.

I heard his father was Beal's agent, thus we got him here on a "bargain". So, he might also help find a taker for Beal now, hopefully.

 

[Hoop Head]

Besides Devin, who is included in this plethora? If they can’t rid themselves of Beal, I think they John Wall his ass and tell him to stay home or just park his ass on the bench.

Booker, Beal, Grayson, and Royce are all SG's. Royce is the size of a SG but can play SF. Grayson is a SG who is best at SG as he doesn't do anything else well like defend, rebound, or pass. That's 4 of the 7 players with guaranteed deals next year. Throw in Cody Martin and Milic as well as non guaranteed guys but are under contract as of now. There is also Jalen Bridges who is restricted on a Two-Way deal. We don't need more SG's.

The other 3 guys on guaranteed deals, Durant, Dunn, and Oso. Nick Richards is non guaranteed.

Until Beal is gone or there's a statement that we're sending him away, he'll be here and play. There's a reason our prospective coaches were asked how they'd use him. It wasn't going to be that he'd be sent home without truing to make it work as a secondary score with Booker.

 

[Covert Rain]

Besides Devin, who is included in this plethora? If they can’t rid themselves of Beal, I think they John Wall his ass and tell him to stay home or just park his ass on the bench.

This. They likely won't but so this.

 

[Phrazbit]

This. They likely won't but so this.

I am pretty sure that Beal will never play here again. They're going to trade him, waive him or send him home.

 

[BirdGangThing]

I am pretty sure that Beal will never play here again. They're going to trade him, waive him or send him home.

bingo - beal will not be a ishigan sun next season

 

[Covert Rain]

I am pretty sure that Beal will never play here again. They're going to trade him, waive him or send him home.

There was an article I posted a few weeks ago. Evidently, waiving him is not an option. According to the reports one of the interview questions for the caching job is how do you implement Beal. So, sounds like it's either he waves his NTC and we trade him or bust.

 

[SirStefan32]

Besides Devin, who is included in this plethora? If they can’t rid themselves of Beal, I think they John Wall his ass and tell him to stay home or just park his ass on the bench.

I was just about to say- the Suns really don't have Beal. Since he is always hurt, it's better for them NOT to use him. They have his contract, but they don't have to play him. Send him home until he takes a buyout or his contract runs out. Who gives a crap? It's not like they are contending for anything.

 

[Carolinacacti]

This is getting out of hand. Beal can play, maybe he gives the Suns 50 games next year. Do you want a repeat of Crowder? Suns need to trade all three. You trade Booker now and Durant at trade dead line next year. This is how you get more for them

 

[Ronin]

Suns Are Open To Trading 2 Key Players

The Phoenix Suns are taking this offseason very seriously, and they are open to the idea of making some massive changes. Not only are they most certainly going

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[SirStefan32]

This is getting out of hand. Beal can play, maybe he gives the Suns 50 games next year. Do you want a repeat of Crowder? Suns need to trade all three. You trade Booker now and Durant at trade dead line next year. This is how you get more for them

Yeah, they are not contending, Beal is 100% untradable, so I have no problem pulling a Crowder. He is hurt so often that it is impossible to have any kind of continuity with him on the roster. Send him home and he can find a trade and waive his no-trade clause, or take a gigantic paycut via a nice buyout if he doesn't want to sit at home. I'd rather Suns play Gillespie than Beal anyway- they are not going anywhere until Beal's contract is off the books, so who cares? Crowder could have helped a contending team. Suns are no longer contending and Beal is always hurt, so he provides no value. This is a very different situation.

 

[Cheesebeef]

This is getting out of hand. Beal can play, maybe he gives the Suns 50 games next year. Do you want a repeat of Crowder? Suns need to trade all three. You trade Booker now and Durant at trade dead line next year. This is how you get more for them

Dude… no one is trading for Beal. That’s why we’re saying John Wall his ass.

 

[Mainstreet]

Yeah, they are not contending, Beal is 100% untradable, so I have no problem pulling a Crowder. He is hurt so often that it is impossible to have any kind of continuity with him on the roster. Send him home and he can find a trade and waive his no-trade clause, or take a gigantic paycut via a nice buyout if he doesn't want to sit at home. I'd rather Suns play Gillespie than Beal anyway- they are not going anywhere until Beal's contract is off the books, so who cares? Crowder could have helped a contending team. Suns are no longer contending and Beal is always hurt, so he provides no value. This is a very different situation.

Unless the Suns have a buyout and stretch worked out with Beal's agent, I wouldn't want to crash his value anymore than it is by sitting him at home. It's not just this season to think about but next season as well.

If Beal stays, he should have value an expiring contract in 2026/27. Also, he might have incentive to play for a new contract with another team.

 

[angel_ofthe_south]

When Tom Thibodeau got fired, I impulsively thought the Suns should hire him as head coach. Now I'm glad they won't. Here's why.

I now see Thibodeau as only the mirror-image of Mike D'Antoni: D'Antoni cared nothing for defense while Thibodeau cares about only defense. Both of them are grossly unbalanced and incomplete as coaches; and for that reason, they both make better strategists than head coaches. D'Antoni is strictly an offensive strategist, Thibodeau strictly a defensive strategist. The similarity between them is negative: they both like ignoring their benches and running their starters into the ground.

Actually, I wish that new Suns coach Jordan Ott could hire Tom Thibodeau as his defensive strategist. But I suppose Thibodeau wants another head-coaching job.

 

[Mainstreet]

"The Valley" jerseys are back. It's a welcome return.

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[SirStefan32]

Unless the Suns have a buyout and stretch worked out with Beal's agent, I wouldn't want to crash his value anymore than it is by sitting him at home. It's not just this season to think about but next season as well.

If Beal stays, he should have value an expiring contract in 2026/27. Also, he might have incentive to play for a new contract with another team.

In my opinion, he has no value. He has the worst contract in the league and he cannot stay healthy. After next season, his expiring contract will be valuable to the Suns as much as it will be to anyone else. There is just no value left to crash.

 

[BirdGangThing]

what if beal retired? lol ish is a bajillionaire

 

[angel_ofthe_south]

In my opinion, he has no value. He has the worst contract in the league and he cannot stay healthy. After next season, his expiring contract will be valuable to the Suns as much as it will be to anyone else. There is just no value left to crash.

There is only one thing a player in that position could do: raise his value by playing his butt off next season. Make the Suns less sorry that they acquired him. But Beal gives no reason to think he'll do that. I have heard someone claim Beal is a good guy, but that doesn't exactly mean Beal cares.

What I'll never do is blame him for being injured. Except when a player refuses to condition properly, like Charles Barkley did, it's never the player's fault if he's injury-prone.

 

[Ronin]

Devin Booker expected to sign a record-breaking contract extension with the Suns

The Phoenix Suns are expected to lock in their franchise's all-time leading scorer, Devin Booker, for years to come.

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[AsUpRoDiGy]

Devin Booker expected to sign a record-breaking contract extension with the Suns

The Phoenix Suns are expected to lock in their franchise's all-time leading scorer, Devin Booker, for years to come.

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What an Ottistic decISHon

 

[Proximo]

Dude… no one is trading for Beal. That’s why we’re saying John Wall his ass.

Probably not, but the idea he has more value sitting at home, then he would playing for the Suns seems ridiculous to me.

He is a nice guy that can score at an efficient rate. Quite frankly the hate he gets seems WAY over the top to me.

 

[Chaplin]

John Wall was a different situation. He had a body that couldn't play basketball "when healthy". Beal can still play basketball, and at a pretty high level, when he's healthy. He's just not healthy most of the time.

Comparing to John Wall and even a far less talented Jae Crowder is simply not a comparison that is well thought out.

 

[Proximo]

In my opinion, he has no value. He has the worst contract in the league and he cannot stay healthy. After next season, his expiring contract will be valuable to the Suns as much as it will be to anyone else. There is just no value left to crash.

He is not the worst contract in the league. Embid's is much worse. I would argue so is Kawhi's because I don't think his knee can make it. I think you can argue Paul George's is worse too, since he is under contract an extra year.