Suns Off Season Changes for 2025: Trades, Buyouts, GM, Coaches, etc.

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I'd like to see Dudley become a head coach but I feel he'd be in an impossible situation here.

I really like that name.

This next coach is gonna be super cheap filler. Fans really need to come to terms with how bad this situation is. This has to be a complete blowup.

This will be the 4th head coach currently getting paid by us. It’s gonna be some first time throw away coach
 

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Minny prob throws us some drek-ish combo of Randle, the white Nova SG who’s name escapes me and future picks.

And Ish probably takes that thinking Booker/Randle/Nova guy is a kinda big 3 that may contend for the playoffs.

And then @Phrazbit suicide bombs Suns headquarters for bringing Randle in to destroy what’s left of Booker’s prime.
I'll drive him there
 

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Minny prob throws us some drek-ish combo of Randle, the white Nova SG who’s name escapes me and future picks.

And Ish probably takes that thinking Booker/Randle/Nova guy is a kinda big 3 that may contend for the playoffs.

And then @Phrazbit suicide bombs Suns headquarters for bringing Randle in to destroy what’s left of Booker’s prime.
Heat has nothing worth KD. Minny's might be OK. But I think we need to get Beal moved first. Looking at Wizs roster, if they ain't competing for next 2 years yet, they might like Beal better than Poole while grooming young guys. So, Beal/Martin/RO for Poole/Kripert/Holmes/Bey seems to work after passing on Milic's option. They add about 10m for 2026 but say 13m for 28. We gain some flexibility by partition Beal into smaller easier to move deals and go from there.
 
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I hope Durant returns some value to the Suns in a trade, but anything beyond the value of an expiring contract is icing on the cake.

I'm hoping it doesn't end up like the Jimmy Butler situation in Miami.

Durant may want a 2-3 year extension.
 
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Heat has nothing worth KD. Minny's might be OK. But I think we need to get Beal moved first. Looking at Wizs roster, if they ain't competing for next 2 years yet, they might like Beal better than Poole while grooming young guys. So, Beal/Martin/RO for Poole/Kripert/Holmes/Bey seems to work after passing on Milic's option. They add about 10m for 2026 but say 13m for 28. We gain some flexibility by partition Beal into smaller easier to move deals and go from there.

Beal isn't going back to Washington and Washington has zero reason to take him back. Especially parting with youth, or younger talent, to deal with him.


KD's value isn't as high as you might think. If we can get 2-3 picks, Kel'Al Ware, and Nikola Jovic then we need to take it and move on. Of course there will be filler for salary purposes but that's 2 high potential youngsters who have shown ability to grow and be more.
 

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Beal isn't going back to Washington and Washington has zero reason to take him back. Especially parting with youth, or younger talent, to deal with him.


KD's value isn't as high as you might think. If we can get 2-3 picks, Kel'Al Ware, and Nikola Jovic then we need to take it and move on. Of course there will be filler for salary purposes but that's 2 high potential youngsters who have shown ability to grow and be more.
This Miami deal indicates tanking for 5 seasons at least, yet without our own picks. That's a no go. Beal was supposedly willing to go most places, knowing this Suns roster with him won't achieve anything he hoped for initially. Washington has too many young talents to develop and Poole doesn't have more value than Beal. They have enough cap space and don't really need his salary for trades.
 

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The announcement is dumb but the thought really isn't that far fetched. Booker had one of the most off/strange seasons of his career. He has played next to 2 HOF players and not gotten it done. He is going to command a MASSIVE contract which means you are also taking that on in the future as well. In the 2nd Apron era teams are going to think twice about Super max players level salary players.
 
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The announcement is dumb but the thought really isn't that far fetched. Booker had one of the most off/strange seasons of his career. He has played next to 2 HOF players and not gotten it done. He is going to command a MASSIVE contract which means you are also taking that on in the future as well. In the 2nd Apron era teams are going to think twice about Super max players level salary players.

The two HOF players haven't gotten it done without an elite cast either.

It looks like Durant was just along for the ride at Golden State.
 

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The two HOF players haven't gotten it done without an elite cast either.

It looks like Durant was just along for the ride at Golden State.
Steph + Durant = Title. Booker HOF x2 = zero. Booker is no Curry either.
 

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Steph + Durant = Title. Booker HOF x2 = zero. Booker is no Curry either.
Prime Steph + Prime Durant and a very good supporting cast = title. Where's Devin's supporting cast? It's far from a sure thing but Prime Lebron MIGHT have been able to carry our roster this season to a title but very few could have and Devin isn't anywhere near that level - even those of us that love him know he's not an MVP let alone generational as Curry, Lebron and maybe KD were.
 

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Prime Steph + Prime Durant and a very good supporting cast = title. Where's Devin's supporting cast? It's far from a sure thing but Prime Lebron MIGHT have been able to carry our roster this season to a title but very few could have and Devin isn't anywhere near that level - even those of us that love him know he's not an MVP let alone generational as Curry, Lebron and maybe KD were.

I think it's time Durant is removed from the generational talent pool. Curry, Lebron, and Jokic fit the bill. Giannis is right there on the cusp and so is prime James Harden. Russ might even be in that group. Durant falls below it though as he's never carried a team or pushed it over the top. Russ won in OKC with Paul George replacing Durant. Golden State won titles before and after KD. Brooklyn and Phoenix did nothing with Durant. He's an All-Star but he's not a defining star of this generation.
 

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If you're gonna do any kind of carrying you've got to show up and pick up those bags when it gets time to carry, meaning the playoffs, especially in elimination games. You know what I mean.
 

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KD's value isn't as high as you might think. If we can get 2-3 picks, Kel'Al Ware, and Nikola Jovic then we need to take it and move on. Of course there will be filler for salary purposes but that's 2 high potential youngsters who have shown ability to grow and be more.
If we were a KD OK from taking the alleged Warriors deal (KD for Butler/Kuminga/picks), and settling for this dreck, it'll make me even more resentful to KD.
 

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Steph + Durant = Title. Booker HOF x2 = zero. Booker is no Curry either.
I like Beal, but let's face facts, he didn't play like a future HOF and definitely didn't play up to his contract. Beal was a good role player -- maybe even great if he wasn't injured so much, but the big 3 was never a big 3 this season.
 

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If we were a KD OK from taking the alleged Warriors deal (KD for Butler/Kuminga/picks), and settling for this dreck, it'll make me even more resentful to KD.

Welcome to the club. Anything we get for KD is a plus, IMO. The Butler/Kuminga deal would have been much better but the Ware/Jovic deal puts us in a better rebuild position. I don't care if we rebuild or retool. I think the Miami deal could get Ishbia to change his tune on trading Booker also, which puts us in a much better rebuild position.
 

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Steph + Durant = Title. Booker HOF x2 = zero. Booker is no Curry either.

Lol, plop Booker on those Warrior teams instead of Durant and Booker has rings. That argument is inane, Durant coat tail riding with the best team in the league is not evidence that he can carry a team.

Few players have had the pleasure of being perpetually surrounded by top tier talent as Durant has and yet he's left each team he's played for on awful terms.
 

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Lol, plop Booker on those Warrior teams instead of Durant and Booker has rings. That argument is inane, Durant coat tail riding with the best team in the league is not evidence that he can carry a team.

Few players have had the pleasure of being perpetually surrounded by top tier talent as Durant has and yet he's left each team he's played for on awful terms.
Swap Steph for Book at we are at least a guaranteed playoff team. Comparing Book's impact to a team verses Steph is inane.
 

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Prime Steph + Prime Durant and a very good supporting cast = title. Where's Devin's supporting cast? It's far from a sure thing but Prime Lebron MIGHT have been able to carry our roster this season to a title but very few could have and Devin isn't anywhere near that level - even those of us that love him know he's not an MVP let alone generational as Curry, Lebron and maybe KD were.
This.
 
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Steph + Durant = Title. Booker HOF x2 = zero. Booker is no Curry either.

I guess you must have forgotten Durant's supporting cast at Golden State.

How many players are as good as Curry? He is a generational talent.

The Suns made it to the Finals with Booker and Paul. I don't recall anyone named Durant on that team.
 

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I guess you must have forgotten Durant's supporting cast at Golden State.

How many players are as good as Curry? He is a generational talent.

The Suns made it to the Finals with Booker and Paul. I don't recall anyone named Durant on that team.
And don't forget Draymond Green. Whether you love the guy or hate him, he was an impact player the likes of which we simply do not have.
 

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Swap Steph for Book at we are at least a guaranteed playoff team. Comparing Book's impact to a team verses Steph is inane.
I certainly wouldn't equate Booker's impact to Steph's, he's a clear level below him. Maybe I read it wrong though, but I thought it was being argued that GS could have won those two KD titles if Devin were in GS instead of Durant and I could see that happening. Not sure it's a lock but I'd like their chances.
 
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