Suns Off Season Changes for 2025-26

[Mainstreet]

But that’s the thing if you want to keep #2 you’re saying you don’t think you’re ready and still years away. If you think you’re ready to make the jump you get KD.

I think keeping the #2 pick is just plain smart.

If I were San Antonio, I'd let the Suns take their business elsewhere because that should be a dealbreaker.

 

[Finito]

I think keeping the #2 pick is just plain smart.

If I were San Antonio, I'd let the Suns take their business elsewhere because that should be a dealbreaker.

I would to

But they came knocking not us. So clearly they think they are missing something.

 

[Hoop Head]

I would to

But they came knocking not us. So clearly they think they are missing something.

Did they? I thought their involvement had more to do with KD wanting to go there. More of being forced into making a lowball offer.

 

[Proximo]

I think the Suns have already asked for everything.

They need to get realistic and get a trade done, unless they are content to bring Durant back as an expiring contract. Because if Durant gets injured, that is all they would have.

Putting a clock on getting a deal done is a guaranteed way to screw yourself.

 

[Proximo]

I think keeping the #2 pick is just plain smart.

If I were San Antonio, I'd let the Suns take their business elsewhere because that should be a dealbreaker.

There is another option, they could trade it for a lower pick and get something else they keep for themselves.

But I don't think they want KD very badly so I don't see that happening.

Seems clear to me the motivated teams for KD are Miami, Minnesota, and possibly Toronto.

 

[Mainstreet]

Putting a clock on getting a deal done is a guaranteed way to screw yourself.

It's not putting a clock on it.

My guess is the Suns have already received a good offer, if there are multiple teams looking to trade for Durant.

If they get cute, they may well end up with a worse trade. This is a team that gave up the farm for Durant, passed on Halliburton and hired a GM without NBA experience.

 

[BirdGangThing]

But that’s the thing if you want to keep #2 you’re saying you don’t think you’re ready and still years away. If you think you’re ready to make the jump you get KD.

the spurs literally aren't ready - wemby is greener than than weed im smoking right now - the spurs aren't a contender with or without kd next year - why would they spend $50+ million on him instead of staying safely under the apron with a 2nd pick in the draft? come on man - and this whole "there's only one guy in this draft" is nuts especially when you want the 2nd pick so badly

 

[Proximo]

It's not putting a clock on it.

My guess is the Suns have already received a good offer, if there are multiple teams looking to trade for Durant.

If they get cute, they may well end up with a worse trade. This is a team that gave up the farm for Durant, passed on Halliburton and hired a GM without NBA experience.

Yeah they did receive a good offer - from GS at the deadline.

I haven't heard of one since then. If the proposed deals are what is available I don't want them, unless that garbage can be flipped somewhere else for something better.

 

[Mainstreet]

Yeah they did receive a good offer - from GS at the deadline.

I haven't heard of one since then. If the proposed deals are what is available I don't want them, unless that garbage can be flipped somewhere else for something better.

My general philosophy in regard to the NBA, the same with the draft, is take the best talent available.

As you say, talent can always be flipped for an area of need later on.

 

[Proximo]

the spurs literally aren't ready - wemby is greener than than weed im smoking right now - the spurs aren't a contender with or without kd next year - why would they spend $50+ million on him instead of staying safely under the apron with a 2nd pick in the draft? come on man - and this whole "there's only one guy in this draft" is nuts especially when you want the 2nd pick so badly

I keep hearing it is 3 tiers, Flag, than the next 3 guys then the next 5 guys, than it's pretty much the same till the 20's.

Spurs did not have Fox and Wemby together yet. I think Fox makes them a way better team - he is a top 20 player in my book.

 

[Proximo]

My general philosophy in regard to the NBA, the same with the draft, is take the best talent available.

As you say, talent can always be flipped for an area of need later on.

If it is done in the same trade - pretty sure there is a time span you have to wait before trading the same player, so it's not something you can just figure out later if you want to try and go into the season with a team that has gone through camp together.

 

[BirdGangThing]

I keep hearing it is 3 tiers, Flag, than the next 3 guys then the next 5 guys, than it's pretty much the same till the 20's.

Spurs did not have Fox and Wemby together yet. I think Fox makes them a way better team - he is a top 20 player in my book.

id see if wemby can play a whole season - have him cut his teeth in the playoffs before i go sign a kd - what if wemby doesn't work out? that 2nd round pick is super important to the spurs

and i don't care about predraft analysis in the nba - there are always future all stars between picks 2 and 30 you just have to identify them before others

 

[Mainstreet]

If it is done in the same trade - pretty sure there is a time span you have to wait before trading the same player, so it's not something you can just figure out later if you want to try and go into the season with a team that has gone through camp together.

Yes, there are time frames but trading a player now or later is better than settling for something less in a trade.

The Suns will likely not be contending for a championship this coming season.

 

[Covert Rain]

I never said there wasn't a difference Beal is clearly the inferior player especially when Defense is considered. As far as injuries go, yeah that is a knock on him also but Bane played 69 games last year and 42 and 58 the 2 years before to Beal's 53, 53, 50 so it's not as big as you may think it is.

When Beal has a bigger role like he did in Washington his output only gets better, because he is just a much better shot creator than Bane.

Also it's hard for me to believe Bane is going to get much better at this point, maybe ever so slightly, but usually 26/27 is about when a player is as good as they will ever be unless they have an obvious hole that can be fixed - which he does not.

My point is the the difference in perception between the two is laughable considering their actual impact on the floor.

Again though age is a big factor. Bane is still young. Beal has Ben hurt a ton the past several years and only getting older. If his body isn't holding up now? It’s going to just get worse the older he gets. That alone makes it a bad comparison to me.

Age is not a perception and a big factor hence the interest in Bane and the lack of interest in Beal. Teams are willing to take risks on younger guys but not expensive, often injured, older guys.

 

[Raindog]

Wembanyama's health issue probably has the Spurs feeling some uncertainty. They may not be as set for the next ten years as it seemed, if that turns out to be a worst case scenario. So they might not be so gung ho about giving away their other young talent for Durant's last few years.

 

[Proximo]

Yes, there are time frames but trading a player now or later is better than settling for something less in a trade.

The Suns will likely not be contending for a championship this coming season.

I have no idea why you think the offers are going to get worse by waiting. It will be the opposite.

 

[Mainstreet]

I have no idea why you think the offers are going to get worse by waiting. It will be the opposite.

If competitors drop out of the race for Durant, his trade value could decrease.

Also, other trades could impact the situation, such as if Giannis or other significant players were to be traded. The NBA trade market is not static.

I'm not necessarily saying it will, but competition helps to get the best deal.

Of course, there is the case of the Suns bidding against themselves when they acquired Durant.

 

[Finito]

I would love Jalen Green and 2 1st from Houston

 

[95pro]

I would love Jalen Green and 2 1st from Houston

I wanted to as well but I really thought he was taller. listed at 6-4, he plays his size. Book is just about the same size but he reminds me of a younger healthier Beal and I’m not sure if that’s the best fit for Book.

 

[Proximo]

Again though age is a big factor. Bane is still young. Beal has Ben hurt a ton the past several years and only getting older. If his body isn't holding up now? It’s going to just get worse the older he gets. That alone makes it a bad comparison to me.

Age is not a perception and a big factor hence the interest in Bane and the lack of interest in Beal. Teams are willing to take risks on younger guys but not expensive, often injured, older guys.

Did you not see bane has played like 10 more games than Beal in the last 3 years, they both seem very injury prone.

I am not arguing they should be valued the same, just that the league seems to currently value Beal at close to zero, while valuing bane very highly.

Beal should be valued lower, but he should still at least have half the value of bane.

 

[Proximo]

I would love Jalen Green and 2 1st from Houston

Have you seen green play? I think he is a bad contract.

But yes considering the other offers I would happily take that.

 

[Proximo]

If competitors drop out of the race for Durant, his trade value could decrease.

Also, other trades could impact the situation, such as if Giannis or other significant players were to be traded. The NBA trade market is not static.

I'm not necessarily saying it will, but competition helps to get the best deal.

Of course, there is the case of the Suns bidding against themselves when they acquired Durant.

There is a shortage of impact players available. Basically nothing in FA, and only a few players available by trade.

It is very obvious to me the suns have stupidly made it clear they want a deal before the draft, the teams trading for KD know that too.

What I think is going on is KD is trying to force his way onto one of those 3 teams, but only Miami really wants him, but their assets are crap.

Once KD understands we aren’t taking the garbage they are offering his choice is to stay here, a place he has already moved on from or make peace going somewhere else. My bet is he will open up his mind to some other teams if that is his two choices.

 

[Finito]

Got an alert saying Durant Vetoed a trade that would of sent him to Minnesota

Don’t know it’s it’s true or not

 

[BirdGangThing]

kd technically doesn't have a say but honestly - if he gets shipped to a team that played the western conference championship just a couple weeks ago kd needs to shut the funk up

 

[Proximo]

Got an alert saying Durant Vetoed a trade that would of sent him to Minnesota

Don’t know it’s it’s true or not

I hope that isn't true.

We basically burnt this franchise to the ground to trade for him, and if he can't spend 1 year on a team he doesn't like that just made it to the WCF that shows a really high level of selfishness. If that is true and I was in charge I would tell him - guess what I am vetoing a trade to any of your preferred destinations.

You either go where you don't want to or you sit at home this year.