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Yeah, but if the Suns are asking for pie in the sky, like Castle or the #2 pick from San Antonio, they need to get real.

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Always ask for everything, some goober might pay that price. See - Mat Ishbia

San Antonio doesn't have a player other than Castle to build a deal around. The #2 can replace Castle or they can run it back with Harrison Barnes again. San Antonio's issues aren't Phoenix's issues. There's 28 other teams in the league.
 
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Why wouldn’t SA give up the second pick. They already have a ton of young talent and this is really considered a one man draft. It’s like some years where you got like 4-5 can’t miss prospects.

I’m not budging if I’m the Suns. I’d rather just lose him in free agency and clear up the money than take back trash

Because some teams actually have a good front office, stable ownership and do not overpay for a soon to be 37 year old player who has taken his last two teams nowhere.
 
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Always ask for everything, some goober might pay that price. See - Mat Ishbia

San Antonio doesn't have a player other than Castle to build a deal around. The #2 can replace Castle or they can run it back with Harrison Barnes again. San Antonio's issues aren't Phoenix's issues. There's 28 other teams in the league.

I think the Suns have already asked for everything.

They need to get realistic and get a trade done, unless they are content to bring Durant back as an expiring contract. Because if Durant gets injured, that is all they would have.
 

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Because some teams actually have a good front office, stable ownership and do not overpay for a soon to be 37 year old player who has taken his last two teams nowhere.

Then why go after him at all?
 

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I think the Suns have already asked for everything.

They need to get realistic and get a trade done, unless they are content to bring Durant back as an expiring contract. Because if Durant gets injured, that is all they would have.

Negotiations take time. The current season still hasn't ended. Rushing a deal never works.
 
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Then why go after him at all?

Durant can put an already good team over the top. He is an excellent clutch shooter.

There is a point of diminishing returns if a team gives up too much for a player. This is what the Suns failed to realize when they traded for him.
 
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Negotiations take time. The current season still hasn't ended. Rushing a deal never works.

No one is suggesting rushing a deal, but if the Suns are asking too much, they better be prepared to keep him and hope he stays healthy.
 

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It’s his age, health and contract that kills him. He hasn’t played over 60 games in 6 years.

I think he would be an awesome 6th man just come in for 20-25 minutes and light it up with the second unit. He’s not a star anymore and he needs to come to terms with that.
I don't really agree with you on that. You put him back on the Wizards and he will look almost just as good as ever. It's all about the opportunity he gets, and what causes someone to be called a star. If all it takes to be a star is to average 25 points per game, I am pretty sure Beal can still do that if he is the main focus of the offense.
 

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No one is suggesting rushing a deal, but if the Suns are asking too much, they better be prepared to keep him and hope he stays healthy.
It all comes down to what is too much.

For me if we aren't getting multiple quality young assets - that means more than one, I would rather just have another year of KD.

I really think just by stating that is the price eventually we will get it by the deadline from some team that is then convinced they are just one move away.

If we don't oh well, we aren't missing out on much anyway. I am not a believer that something is always better than nothing if it establishes a reputation that you are a pushover.
 
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It all comes down to what is too much.

For me if we aren't getting multiple quality young assets - that means more than one, I would rather just have another year of KD.

I really think just by stating that is the price eventually we will get it by the deadline from some team that is then convinced they are just one move away.

If we don't oh well, we aren't missing out on much anyway. I am not a believer that something is always better than nothing if it establishes a reputation that you are a pushover.

I'd probably do the trade with the Timberwolves especially they would add a first round pick.

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I'd probably do the trade with the Timberwolves especially they would add a first round pick.

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It probably is the best deal, I just hate Gobert. If we could flip him somewhere else I guess it would be acceptable.
 
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It probably is the best deal, I just hate Gobert. If we could flip him somewhere else I guess it would be acceptable.

I don't have a reason to dislike Rudy Gobert. He is a much better center than what the Suns have.

IIRC, Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert were successful together. Maybe the same happens with Devin Booker.
 

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I really know nothing about Dillingham, but after just watching the highlights I do see the potential.
 

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I don't have a reason to dislike Rudy Gobert. He is a much better center than what the Suns have.

IIRC, Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert were successful together. Maybe the same happens with Devin Booker.
He is not a player for a rebuilding team, he needs to go to a potential contender who can make up for all of his many shortcomings with talent at the other positions.
 
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I really know nothing about Dillingham, but after just watching the highlights I do see the potential.

Dillingham's lack of size in regard to defense is what jumped out to me. Speed and shooting seem to be huge pluses.

Overall, I like his potential, but defense will likely always be a problem.
 

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Durant can put an already good team over the top. He is an excellent clutch shooter.

There is a point of diminishing returns if a team gives up too much for a player. This is what the Suns failed to realize when they traded for him.

But that’s the thing if you want to keep #2 you’re saying you don’t think you’re ready and still years away. If you think you’re ready to make the jump you get KD.
 

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Dillingham's lack of size in regard to defense is what jumped out to me. Speed and shooting seem to be huge pluses.

Overall, I like his potential, but defense will likely always be a problem.
Actually if you look at the advanced stats, he is worse on offense than defense. He is a good enough athlete I think he should be passable on D. He does seem to have the tools especially as a passer. Just needs to become a better shooter and he should be a solid player.
 

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But that’s the thing if you want to keep #2 you’re saying you don’t think you’re ready and still years away. If you think you’re ready to make the jump you get KD.
That's not the way I look at it.

To me KD has 2 to 3 good years left.

The #2 pick has a pretty good track record, and you get as much as 15 years out of that, and Wemby is still damn young.

If I am the Spurs I am thinking about being a contender for the next 10 years, not the next 2.
 

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It probably is the best deal, I just hate Gobert. If we could flip him somewhere else I guess it would be acceptable.

He’s by far the best interior defender in the NBA. If you’re always looking at what someone doesn’t do you’ll never appreciate what they do well.

That being said he’s gonna get killed on this board and it’s gonna get toxic
 
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Actually if you look at the advanced stats, he is worse on offense than defense. He is a good enough athlete I think he should be passable on D. He does seem to have the tools especially as a passer. Just needs to become a better shooter and he should be a solid player.

The Suns would be fortunate to get a young talent like him included in a trade, no matter how one looks at it.
 

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That's not the way I look at it.

To me KD has 2 to 3 good years left.

The #2 pick has a pretty good track record, and you get as much as 15 years out of that, and Wemby is still damn young.

If I am the Spurs I am thinking about being a contender for the next 10 years, not the next 2.

Like I’ve said they have as much young talent as anyone in the league already. KD will be off your books in like 2 years giving you a lot of freed up money.
 

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Like I’ve said they have as much young talent as anyone in the league already. KD will be off your books in like 2 years giving you a lot of freed up money.
I think I look at the Spurs differently than you.

I already consider them to be at least the 2nd best team in the West within 2 years with or without KD. Add a successful 2nd pick - and I think they have everything they need without KD.
 
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