Suns Off Season Changes for 2025-26

[Mainstreet]

The problem is he isn’t a max player.

Ayton's contract expires after the 2025-26 season, so he will not get max money on his next contract.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Again, put words in my mouth. How about Booker as a second option isn't good. He's a bad second option. Is that fair?

I don't think he's a bad second option. He is a bad second option if he's playing point guard but surely that out of position nonsense can't continue forever, can it?

 

[BirdGangThing]

whether kd might stay or not - ish needs to say kd might stay - he should've said that all along - you know - with him being smarter than nba gms and all - should've gotten kd to sign that 2 year with him being such a master negotiator

 

[Carolinacacti]

One day maybe we can look back at some good old days

 

[Raindog]

Windy saying Suns getting lowballed

And talk is starting that Durant might be back with the Suns

They're going to have to say that if they're getting lowball offers.

 

[angel_ofthe_south]

Oh I'm still around, just don't have much to offer that hasn't already been discussed many times.

I interpret that as meaning you probably find the speculation pointless, and would rather wait and see what happens. As would I.

 

[angel_ofthe_south]

What prevents the Suns from doing what they did with the Charles Barkley trade? What I mean is, get a return for him, then turn around in a few months and make another big trade. It has been said for decades that Jerry Colangelo effectively traded Barkley for Jason Kidd.

If the Kevin Durant trade becomes just phase one of a larger shakeup, so be it.

 

[taz02]

What prevents the Suns from doing what they did with the Charles Barkley trade? What I mean is, get a return for him, then turn around in a few months and make another big trade. It has been said for decades that Jerry Colangelo effectively traded Barkley for Jason Kidd.

If the Kevin Durant trade becomes just phase one of a larger shakeup, so be it.

There was a recent story about the suns gauging league value for one of the Houston guys.

 

[Yuma]

i'd bring back Ayton if they took Beal back in return. Arguably Beal playing better than Ayton. They can throw in whoever they want to even out the salaries..

 

[leclerc]

I am not up for another round of Ayton "if only" posts. Good luck to him elsewhere.

 

[Sparky16]

Windy saying Suns getting lowballed

And talk is starting that Durant might be back with the Suns

Wow, we swapped out a cheap owner everyone in the league hates for a rich owner everyone hates.... Metro Phoenix can't have anything nice

 

[95pro]

Windy saying Suns getting lowballed

And talk is starting that Durant might be back with the Suns

That would be the first of the new GM's faults, also under the advisement of IT and JJ.

 

[Proximo]

i'd bring back Ayton if they took Beal back in return. Arguably Beal playing better than Ayton. They can throw in whoever they want to even out the salaries..

That is a fact.

The Beal bashing is out of hand

17PPG .497% of FG, .386 from 3 last year

By comparison
Desmond Bane
19.2 PPG .484% of FG, .392 from 3

According to Suns fans and the NBA - Bane is worth 5 firsts, but Beal who has 90% the same stats deserves to be waived.

 

[Proximo]

That would be the first of the new GM's faults, also under the advisement of IT and JJ.

Well, if the best offer is Quickly, Poetl and the #9, call me crazy but I am not making that deal.

I would rather just get 55 million of cap space cleared than take on trash contracts and a prayer that the #9 pick makes it all worth it.

 

[Covert Rain]

That is a fact.

The Beal bashing is out of hand

17PPG .497% of FG, .386 from 3 last year

By comparison
Desmond Bane
19.2 PPG .484% of FG, .392 from 3

According to Suns fans and the NBA - Bane is worth 5 firsts, but Beal who has 90% the same stats deserves to be waived.

The Beal bashing has nothing to do with his stats when he plays. I think most fans here have said that. Also Beal is 31 years old. Bane is only 26. If you don't think that is a big difference I don't know what to tell you. Many think Bane has not reached his ceiling. Beal 100% has. He is not getting better. Just older.

Now I think 5 firsts for someone like Bane is an overpay for sure but is seems like there is always one team willing to do that each year. It's just a poor comparison IMO.

 

[Proximo]

The Beal bashing has nothing to do with his stats when he plays. I think most fans here have said that. Also Beal is 31 years old. Bane is only 26. If you don't think that is a big difference I don't know what to tell you. Many think Bane has not reached his ceiling. Beal 100% has. He is not getting better. Just older.

Now I think 5 firsts for someone like Bane is an overpay for sure but is seems like there is always one team willing to do that each year. It's just a poor comparison IMO.

I never said there wasn't a difference Beal is clearly the inferior player especially when Defense is considered. As far as injuries go, yeah that is a knock on him also but Bane played 69 games last year and 42 and 58 the 2 years before to Beal's 53, 53, 50 so it's not as big as you may think it is.

When Beal has a bigger role like he did in Washington his output only gets better, because he is just a much better shot creator than Bane.

Also it's hard for me to believe Bane is going to get much better at this point, maybe ever so slightly, but usually 26/27 is about when a player is as good as they will ever be unless they have an obvious hole that can be fixed - which he does not.

My point is the the difference in perception between the two is laughable considering their actual impact on the floor.

 

[Chaplin]

I never said there wasn't a difference Beal is clearly the inferior player especially when Defense is considered. As far as injuries go, yeah that is a knock on him also but Bane played 69 games last year and 42 and 58 the 2 years before to Beal's 53, 53, 50 so it's not as big as you may think it is.

When Beal has a bigger role like he did in Washington his output only gets better, because he is just a much better shot creator than Bane.

Also it's hard for me to believe Bane is going to get much better at this point, maybe ever so slightly, but usually 26/27 is about when a player is as good as they will ever be unless they have an obvious hole that can be fixed - which he does not.

My point is the the difference in perception between the two is laughable considering their actual impact on the floor.

I haven't checked, but assuming also that Bane's Minutes per game was higher than Beal's as well.

 

[Finito]

That is a fact.

The Beal bashing is out of hand

17PPG .497% of FG, .386 from 3 last year

By comparison
Desmond Bane
19.2 PPG .484% of FG, .392 from 3

According to Suns fans and the NBA - Bane is worth 5 firsts, but Beal who has 90% the same stats deserves to be waived.

It’s his age, health and contract that kills him. He hasn’t played over 60 games in 6 years.

I think he would be an awesome 6th man just come in for 20-25 minutes and light it up with the second unit. He’s not a star anymore and he needs to come to terms with that.

 

[Mainstreet]

It’s his age, health and contract that kills him. He hasn’t played over 60 games in 6 years.

I think he would be an awesome 6th man just come in for 20-25 minutes and light it up with the second unit. He’s not a star anymore and he needs to come to terms with that.

Your first sentence tells a lot. Maybe a new coach makes a difference, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Windy saying Suns getting lowballed

And talk is starting that Durant might be back with the Suns

If we're just being offered the puupuu platter, why not wait?

 

[95pro]

The Beal bashing has nothing to do with his stats when he plays. I think most fans here have said that. Also Beal is 31 years old. Bane is only 26. If you don't think that is a big difference I don't know what to tell you. Many think Bane has not reached his ceiling. Beal 100% has. He is not getting better. Just older.

Now I think 5 firsts for someone like Bane is an overpay for sure but is seems like there is always one team willing to do that each year. It's just a poor comparison IMO.

I was not just about acquiring Bane, it was paying to get rid of guys and their contracts. But yes 4 picks and a swap is 2 picks too many.

KCP is on a declined, 3years 66M
Cole , 3 years 39M

Roughly trading 35M for Banes 41M.

 

[95pro]

It’s his age, health and contract that kills him. He hasn’t played over 60 games in 6 years.

I think he would be an awesome 6th man just come in for 20-25 minutes and light it up with the second unit. He’s not a star anymore and he needs to come to terms with that.

What is funny is that all the red flags were there. Beal only averages 34 min per game for his career, 21pts, 4 assists, 4 rebounds, a huge salary, and a NTC. Was never a defensive stopper and never a winner. Nice guy though.

 

[Hoop Head]

Talk of bringing KD already is beyond premature. The off-season hasn't even started, we haven't had the draft or crowned a champion. I can understand how fans are anxious but that is not a conversation the front office should be even considering at this time.

 

[Mainstreet]

Talk of bringing KD already is beyond premature. The off-season hasn't even started, we haven't had the draft or crowned a champion. I can understand how fans are anxious but that is not a conversation the front office should be even considering at this time.

Yeah, but if the Suns are asking for pie in the sky, like Castle or the #2 pick from San Antonio, they need to get real.

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[Finito]

Yeah, but if the Suns are asking for pie in the sky, like Castle or the #2 pick from San Antonio, they need to get real.

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Why wouldn’t SA give up the second pick. They already have a ton of young talent and this is really considered a one man draft. It’s like some years where you got like 4-5 can’t miss prospects.

I’m not budging if I’m the Suns. I’d rather just lose him in free agency and clear up the money than take back trash