Suns lose again

[Chris_Sanders]

The coin flip that is

http://arizonasports.com/story/1908732/suns-lose-nba-draft-lottery-tiebreaker-vs-cavaliers-fall-7th/

 

[Chaplin]

That only applies if BOTH Cleveland and Phoenix don't get a top 4 pick. Very unlikely to matter.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

That only applies if BOTH Cleveland and Phoenix don't get a top 4 pick. Very unlikely to matter.

What about second round?

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Don't they fall to 4th if someone jumps into the top 3?

 

[Hoop Head]

Don't they fall to 4th if someone jumps into the top 3?

The top 4 picks are drawn for the lottery now so it only matters if neither Cleveland or the Suns get a top 4 pick. Basically 4 teams have to leapfrog both teams to push the Cavs and Suns to the point where the coin flip matters.

 

[Mainstreet]

What about second round?

Suns will pick third in the second round.

Also they can fall as far as seventh in the first round.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Suns will pick third in the second round.

Yeah, booooo.

 

[Mainstreet]

Yeah, booooo.

Double boo.

 

[Chaplin]

Yeah, booooo.

That doesn't bother me as much. Not so enthusiastic about a 2nd rounder on a team full of young guys already.

 

[bankybruce]

Here is a cool sim site. The Suns picked 6th twice for me. It's seems that the new system allows for some craziness!

http://www.tankathon.com

 

[Mainstreet]

Here is a cool sim site. The Suns picked 6th twice for me. It's seems that the new system allows for some craziness!

http://www.tankathon.com

It's a cool site Banky especially if the Suns draft early. They also have a solid mock draft.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Here is a cool sim site. The Suns picked 6th twice for me. It's seems that the new system allows for some craziness!

http://www.tankathon.com

Tan it twice. 6th and 1st. Then stopped. I’ll take 50% at Zion.

 

[1Sun]

Tan it twice. 6th and 1st. Then stopped. I’ll take 50% at Zion.

Ran it once, got second. I'll take that, though I fear in that scenario the Suns draft Morant, start him as a rookie and do not bring in any veteran point guard to hold the fort until Morant is ready, which in my opinion could spell disaster both for the Suns and for Morant.

Morant has a chance to be successful in the NBA...but only if he is brought along slowly and developed properly.

 

[Superbone]

Took me about 15 tries to get 1. 6th and 2nd came up the most for me before that.

 

[Hoop Head]

Ran it 3 times, got 5th, 3rd, and 1st. I'll settle for the 3rd or 1st.

 

[Mainstreet]

I ran the simulator ten times.

It came out as follows: 5,6,6,6,2,2,6,6,3,2.

Maybe we should start evaluating players around the 6th slot. Hope we get lucky but can't count on it.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I ran the simulator ten times.

It came out as follows: 5,6,6,6,2,2,6,6,3,2.

Maybe we should start evaluating players around the 6th slot. Hope we get lucky but can't count on it.

6th slot projected players are so depressing.

 

[Mainstreet]

6th slot projected players are so depressing.

It would be a let down for sure. Also the trade value of the pick goes way down as well.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

It would be a let down for sure. Also the trade value of the pick goes way down as well.

I think it eliminates any chance for a significant trade.

 

[Mainstreet]

I think it eliminates any chance for a significant trade.

Straight up it may.

If combined with the Bucks pick and Warren or Jackson, the Suns might still be able to pull off a nice trade.

 

[JerkFace]

Suns will pick third in the second round.

Also they can fall as far as seventh in the first round.

Are you sure on this? I was under the impression that that on ties they swap the order in the second round.

 

[Mainstreet]

Are you sure on this? I was under the impression that that on ties they swap the order in the second round.

Tankathon.com has the Suns picking 2nd in the second round so maybe you are right.

That tie messed up everything.

This is good. I like the second round.

 

[overseascardfan]

I have a feeling PHX falls out of Top 3. If I was Jones I would start looking into putting packages together for a PG. Focus on PF in FA.

 

[JerkFace]

Tankathon.com has the Suns picking 2nd in the second round so maybe you are right.

That tie messed up everything.

This is good. I like the second round.

Yea, I am pretty sure we are second. I looked around and couldn’t find anything definitive but if you look at last year the Heat won the “coin flip” and picked before the bucks in the first round, but in the second round the Bucks picked before the Heat. If true, and either we or the Cavs end up in the top 4 then losing the drawing is actually slightly beneficial for us.

 

[Mainstreet]

Yea, I am pretty sure we are second. I looked around and couldn’t find anything definitive but if you look at last year the Heat won the “coin flip” and picked before the bucks in the first round, but in the second round the Bucks picked before the Heat. If true, and either we or the Cavs end up in the top 4 then losing the drawing is actually slightly beneficial for us.

I never thought about checking out last season. Good thinking. One spot can make a huge difference in the second round. I'm hoping Jones does a better job than McDonough in this round.