Suns @ Lakers Tuesday game thread, 12-5-2023 - West Quarterfinal, In-Season Tournament

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Lol… almost had a triple double… yeah, closer to getting that with turnovers than rebounds.

Reality check: When your best player scores 7 less than his average, shoots 6-16 and has an absolutely pathetic 7 turnovers that’s a BAD game. Thinking otherwise is a weird take.
He had turnovers like the whole team but he had 21/11 boards and a few assists shy of a triple double while not playing his best and getting freaking abused all night with very few calls! Can’t score 30 every night when others are scoring better, Book willing to take less shots! He could be douche like other stars and take 25+ per game but he’s not trying to inflate his numbers regardless of winning… but you do you…
 

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The Suns are bottom-5 in turnover per possession. This will ultimately be our downfall it feels like. Any adequate on ball defense on the perimeter and we make basic passes look difficult. Vogel/Young need to figure this crap out.
It doesn’t look like we have offensive sets. I’ve been looking for patterns in our offense and we don’t seem to have any.
 
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Tell them Frank.

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Well, given that the Suns can't do anything about egregiously corrupt/incompetent officiating, they can only focus on the things they can control to course correct the rest of the year.

So what are we going to do about the gawdawful turnovers? Are they just waiting for Beal to get healthy and hope that fixes it because he's another ballhandler? We need another PG in the worst way. I realize that we don't have the most optimal resources to address it, but IMO James Jones can't continue to sit on his hands and ignore it.
 

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Book is mad
 

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I never said it wasn’t a factor. Officiating is a factor in literally every game in every sport. And sometimes a single call can be pivotal (as the timeout seemed to be here) but that’s not what everyone was gnashing teeth and whining about and throwing out conspiracies posts and posts and posts before that call occurred and you know that’s what I’m addressing.

So...

Take this statement on the cards board and a game thread and see how it flies. Even if we are all wrong coming in here and calling everyone on this board out on a game thread as whiners is out of line.

Now that just basic decorum is out of the way...

You can't even admit that a game tying incorrect call is pivotal. Why. Why can't you just admit it?
 
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Frank Vogel not happy with the Lakers getting a timeout on a loose ball.

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As it should. One of the worst calls I’ve seen in a long time. Also this: terrible calls happen.
I'm with you that I think ref blaming is silly. Both opposing team's fanbases are always supremely confident that the refs are sticking it to them and helping the other team win. Both of these things cannot be true. That's why it's irrational.

It is rare though for me to see this level of one sided ref backlash on reddit. From all fanbases. It's notable.
 

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The Lakers did not commit a single foul in the 4th until there was 3 minutes left.
 

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I keep trying to watch these games, but we are so boring and the tunekvers are so annoying that I can barely make it five minutes, even when we’re winning.

Turned the game off and now watching How To Blow Up A Pipeline. Maybe I’ll check back when it’s over.
You could blow up the Suns' draft pipeline, but that's already been done.
 
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The whole world seen it. The writers and Suns fans saw it as well.

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I mean... come on.

We are terribly sloppy and shouldn't expect to beat anyone turning the ball over so much, but the Lakers suck... we CAN beat them even when sloppy, it is hard to beat them when everytime we threaten to get ahead the whistles come out.
That's definitely a flagrant 1.
 
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I hope Kevin Durant's left ankle is okay.

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