Suns @ Kings 2-10-19

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  1. sunsfan88

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    It's just incredible how spoiled and entitled professional athletes are. I can't imagine screwing up at work one day and my explanation for it to my director being "I didn't take it serious". I would certainly expect to get my walking papers immediately after that conversation.

    It's understandable because these athletes are so young and most of them know little to nothing about being professionals and actually earning paychecks (like most 18-20 year olds) rather than just showing up and getting paid.

    Off topic but this is one of the reasons I hate the idea of players entering the draft directly after high school and I would rather them increase the minimum eligibility to at least 3 years after high school prior to entering the NBA. If they want to play in the G league (or some other league) in the mean time to work on their game and learn about the business and being a professional instead of playing in college then I support that as well.

    Sorry this basically turned into a completely off topic rant.
     
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    I don't understand players not having a strong work ethic either.

    They are young, well paid and have one of the best jobs in the world.
     
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    As a generalization, that makes sense. But when it is a team problem, it falls on the coach.

    Additionally, it would be foolish to not be honest about the predominant NBA situation.

    Young people going from victims of bigotry and witnessing lack of equal opportunity in their families (in most cases) to instant millionaires is not a smooth adjustment to make.

    That is why it takes a Head Coach who is both compassionate and strong to work with a young team.

    Igor is obviously compassionate, but as a communicator and leader, he has not shown NBA calibre strength. I would guess that his private persona is not much different from his public one.

    For his own good, Igor's first NBA head coaching job should have been with a predominantly veteran team.

    But, even then, expecting players to adjust to his system, rather than accommodating their skills, would have done him in.

    NBA young players aren't much different than any kid out of high school on his first job. They need to be guided through their first adult responsibility.

    Major League baseball is the only major sport where there is a "growing" opportunity in the Minors before they hit the big time.

    The NBA used to have a proving ground -- four years of college basketball. Now it is one-and-done for those with the potential skills to make the NBA.
     
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    (Cont'd.) There is a whole field of study devoted to it.

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    yes, when i was young and without guidance myself, i had a C average in HS and i dropped out of college after 2 semesters due to lack of interest -- except for one class -- Sociology, and it was the only class i got an A in. After sowing some wild oats, I went back to college more than a decade later when i appreciated education and graduated with a 4.0

    where your head is at the time makes a big difference
    if i was a millionaire at age 20 i would have sat around playing video games most of the day
     
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    Congratulations on completing your education and with a 4.0. And your interest in Sociology. I took undergrad courses in Soc & Psych. And some post-grad Psych courses as well, the only A's I ever got. I have always had instant recall problems, which show in my not being able to remember NBA stats or transactions from years gone by.

    And I had the wonderful experience of having a gentleman with his PhD in Industrial Psychology as my mentor in management (before he ultimately passed away from a heart attack at the age of 39).

    I am retired, but I dedicated my management career to carrying on his legacy. I've never done it quite as well as he, but I've tried.

    What does that have to do with NBA basketball? I guess, as I posted, that we find a Head Coach who is compassionate and with leadership ability. And one who understands the society and psychology of young men growing up with today's challenges.
     
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    Best course I took in college (actually, I audited it, so I didn't even earn a grade) was Sociology of Sports taught by Harry Edwards. He would have a lot of interesting things to say on this topic...
     
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