Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions

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Present Suns roster keep vs. let go.

Keep: Durant, Book, Beal, Nurk, Jones, Allen, Dunn, Oso, Plumlee, ONeale, Morris, Bol, Oso, Kaminsky, Gillespie.

Let go: Diakate, DLee, Washington.

Not sure: Bridges, Okogie
 

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Present Suns roster keep vs. let go.

Keep: Durant, Book, Beal, Nurk, Jones, Allen, Dunn, Oso, Plumlee, ONeale, Morris, Bol, Oso, Kaminsky, Gillespie.

Let go: Diakate, DLee, Washington.

Not sure: Bridges, Okogie
bud loves 3s and clutch shooters - suns have invested in lee heavily - dude isn't going anywhere
 

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bud loves 3s and clutch shooters - suns have invested in lee heavily - dude isn't going anywhere

I'm impressed by Lee thus far. He seems much more athletic after coming back from injury.
 

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bud loves 3s and clutch shooters - suns have invested in lee heavily - dude isn't going anywhere

They have invested less in Okogie and Frank. Lee is on a minimal deal and he has never shown an ability to be more than that. We have plenty of other guys who make a better case for court.time.
 

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So do the Suns sign Kaminsky to fill the open roster spot?

He is fine as a depth center for now.

IMO, the Suns will still need to make a trade later on for a rotational 4/5.

Personally, I sign Gillespie to a 4-year contract, so I don't have to fret about if they can keep him long term.
 

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I don't think there was ever any real competition from Mamadi Diakite and Moses Wood for the final roster spot.

This doesn't necessarily mean it goes to Frank.
 

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The Suns roster now stands at 18.

That is counting Frank Kaminsky and three two-way contract players: Collin Gillespie, Ty Ty Washington and Jalen Bridges.
 

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The Suns roster now stands at 18.

That is counting Frank Kaminsky and three two-way contract players: Collin Gillespie, Ty Ty Washington and Jalen Bridges.
Say goodbye to Washington and probably Bridges. Bridges has some promise, just not as much as Oso, Dunn, or Gillespie. You can develop only so many young guys. If you keep too many youngsters, none of them develop as they should.
 

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Say goodbye to Washington and probably Bridges. Bridges has some promise, just not as much as Oso, Dunn, or Gillespie. You can develop only so many young guys. If you keep too many youngsters, none of them develop as they should.

The Suns will keep all three of Bridges, Gillespie and Washington because they are on two-way contracts.

Pivotal is whether the Suns sign Frank Kaminsky or someone else to the regular roster.

Conceivably, the Suns could keep the 15th roster spot open.
 

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If he is your designated defender on the other team's star, how do you keep him out of the starting line up? I am not saying he will be a starter, or even that he should be, but usually the player that fills this role starts.
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I think it's obvious, and probably smart at this time, to keep Colin on the 2-way, he's already signed, so they control him for now. It just seems like a no-brainer to keep Frank at the #15 spot. If they find something better to replace him, whether that's elevating Gillespie for finding someone else, it won't be hard to just cut him. He's not going to be making all that much, and for all intents and purposes he's a popular guy with the team. Otherwise they wouldn't have brought him back. We usually don't bring back former players.
 

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I think it's obvious, and probably smart at this time, to keep Colin on the 2-way, he's already signed, so they control him for now. It just seems like a no-brainer to keep Frank at the #15 spot. If they find something better to replace him, whether that's elevating Gillespie for finding someone else, it won't be hard to just cut him. He's not going to be making all that much, and for all intents and purposes he's a popular guy with the team. Otherwise they wouldn't have brought him back. We usually don't bring back former players.

We agree, again.

I see no reason to consider upgrading Gillepsie's deal until April, if even then. When we're building a playoff roster is when that needs to be evaluated. He'll be restricted this summer, provided we offer a qualifying offer, and the only thing that might make tricky is he somehow earns a larger than minimum deal/offer.

Frank is arguably a better backup than Plumlee. I'd be curious to learn if the Suns have a guarantee date on Plumlee's deal or if Ishbia would eat it to waive him. I think he has the least upside of anyone right now, based on preseason play.
 

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The Suns really are financially in a bind. Absolutely no way out. I was thinking that Dunn's immediate emergence, the fact that he hit the ground running, creates pressure to hurry up and trade Beal for being not vitally important. But they can't, because of his no-trade clause. I certainly wouldn't trade one of the other two stars.
It should be noted it’s unlikely another team would take on his salary.

The no-trade only says he has to be okay with his new destination.
 

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Suns coach Mike Budenholzer said Jusuf Nurkic (finger), Grayson Allen (Achilles) haven't done basketball work and Josh Okogie (hamstring) didn't participate in practice today.
Specifically said Nurkic hasn't had any contact. Working on conditioning.Had scrimmage today
 
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