Seriously though, fire Joseph

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  1. PJ1

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    Bad coaching and little talent. Makes you sick watching it and I have seen some real bad Cardinal D over 50 years.
     
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    Care to explain?
     
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    Talent AND coaching are both bad. Ultimately both things land on Keim since he hand picked all of the players and the coach.
     
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    Keim and Joseph both need to go. I was holding on to give them a chance to rebuild this offseason but I cant take anymore. Our d just gets shredded, constantly.

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    I will assume you passed out from drinking too much. Maybe tomorrow...
     
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    The issue I see is there are rarely any adjustments to coverage schemes that arent working. Same crap over and over.
     
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    Joseph obviously needs to be fired ASAP. This pass defense is on the verge of setting records for futility, and he seems to have the same failed gameplan for every game.

    However, the lack of defensive talent on this team cannot be overstated. Who is Keim's best defensive draft pick? Baker, who has now gone almost 3 YEARS without an INT. Badger? Golden? Both are playing for other teams already. Murphy has shown some promise, but he has been pretty average as far as rookie CBs go.

    16 players recorded defensive stats today. Only 5 of them were drafted by Keim, and none of them were the 3 defensive players he drafted in the first round over the past 6 years. This is not normal. No successful team can survive this level of ineptitude. The fact that more people aren't calling for Keim's job at this point is frankly shocking. Vance is bad, but Keim is debilitatingly destructive.
     
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    Pretty sure a lot of people are calling for both.
     
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    Between Arians, Wilks and KK no one managed a winning season in the last three years. And it is all Vance Joseph's fault?

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    I’m truly not sure if this is sarcasm or a real analysis. Five pro bowlers? Baker, Peters, Suggs , Brock and PP are hangers on at this point. There is very little talent on the defense and when the offense is ineffective they are even worst. This lost was on the defensive talent first, then the offense who leaves the defense on the field too long.
     
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    suggs has not been a legit starter since the first 4 games of the season
     
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    I'm not ready to fire Joseph until the end of the season. There are a lot of young players who have not improved. Is it lack of talent or coaching?
    I don't pretend to know, but something is rotten in Denmark or is it Arizona?
     
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    Or not.

    One thing I noticed: Cardinal defenders usually played 3 or 4 yds off their man. Ram defenders were glued to their man. On average - our defenders were conceding nearly a half-dozen yards per play - prescription to lose.

    Another thing - if you tally up all the one-on-one battles (i.e. jump balls, open field tackles, 1 hand catches, blitzer vs. pass blocker etc.) we lost about 90% of those. Scheme? Technique? Athletic Ability? That's for smart, committed football minds to determine; but what you don't do is continue to watch it happening while doing nothing.
     
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