Sean Miller’s Contract

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  1. GatorAZ

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    Miller up until 2018 did a nice job here... A made 3 here or block call there and he’s a F4 coach but it doesn’t change the fact he was too loose with assistants. Even if it’s not violation you can’t be yucking it up with scumbags like Dawkins as much as he did.

    The new coach will have his hands full keeping the roster intact.
     
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    With Arizona's reputation as a basketball power they should be able to bounce back. I can see where they might have to go through an interim period until they can regain financial support from alumni and be able to pay for a high priced coach.
     
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    he did well yes but you can't compare Arizona to Temple, they literally had to practice at like 6am because they didn't have an onsite practice gym and to get time they had to start early. He had a fertile recruiting ground in Philly but very little recruiting budget, certainly didn't have Nike to help him get recruits to Temple.

    The problem with Miller IMO, two things, he didn't get rid of Book when the problems first surfaced, he was trying to be a nice guy is the company line but IMO it was more the guy gets recruits so I'm willing to give him a pass on the other stuff. The second thing was when UCLA got the pipeline to the Compton Magic, it took the premier AAU program in California and took those kids away from Miller. The problem is they tried to go national and got involved with some kids and people they shouldn't have which eventually led to the whole FBI mess. If MIller had said 5 years ago or whenever it was sorry Book you're just too much of a risk to keep, he'd probably still be the UA coach.

    Hire the right coach now and you will probably keep Simpson and most of the current roster and be pretty good next year. You just have to hope you're allowed to play in the tournament.
     
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    I agree on Book. There were warning signs early on that he was a shady character, especially selling team info to a blogger, though I don't think anyone could've predicted that he would've pocketed bribe money. Then again, Book is an idiot. That was Miller's biggest mistake at Arizona, and perhaps a fatal flaw.

    IIRC, the Compton Magic stuff was because of Gabe York's experience at Arizona and Adidas.
     
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    Combination of that and UCLA hired Grace as an assistant who had direct ties to the Magic. That led to them getting Anigbogu, Leaf, Hill, Bernard. It also helped get Riley because he was friends with several of the guys. UCLA got Lonzo in large part because the dad wanted him local and because Tyus Edney's daughters went to HS with Lonzo and his brothers so the Ball family was comfortable with UCLA(the daughters lived with Edneys ex wife). If Miller doesn't lose Leaf to UCLA he might have gotten Lonzo as well and frankly even without Lonzo that UA team with both Markkanen and Leaf, if they could get Trier to pass now and then they might have won a national title.

    I guess we'll never know but the UCLA angle on that has always been Leaf always wanted to go to UCLA. the dad got mad at Adidas and took it out by having TJ commit to Arizona. The fallout there was inevitable. I remember Gershon very clearly on the UCLA board saying I never really believed Leaf was coming to Arizona, UCLA was always where he wanted to be.

    If everyone that UCLA thinks is staying stays, if they get Myles Johnson as a transfer, the only way they have a ride for Simpson is if Juzang leaves, or someone else transfers and right now they don't really expect that. I kind of expect Juzang will leave but he might not decide until June so will Simpson wait around that long is anybodys guess.

    Won't be at all surprised if you hire the right guy if he simply changes his mind and comes back to UA
     
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    My fear is becoming Indiana. A program that hangs onto decades old history for false relevance. It was very close to happening in 2009 when Tim Floyd almost became the coach here and is always a concern. At the same time, what Miller did was make Arizona a national brand as he was a successful coach and kept Arizona relevant nationally.
     
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    I don't remember Arizona being that involved in Lonzo's recruitment. I don't think we even offered him. I remember LaVar saying that the Ball brothers pretty much bypassed recruiting altogether and committed to UCLA. Plus, I don't think Miller would've put up with Lavar's BS like Alford did.
     
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    The coach I always associate with Arizona basketball is Lute Olson.

    IMO, he made Arizona basketball a powerhouse.
     
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    Lonzo committed VERY early before his soph season. They eventually took commits from the other 2 brothers because several teams in the Pac 12 were offering to do so to get Lonzo away from UCLA, don't recall if UA was one, I know UW was, I think SC was too.

    So I think it's accurate to say they weren't involved before he picked UCLA, and once he did I think it was pretty apparent that's where he was going. Again LaVar wasn't any issue at all when Lonzo was at UCLA, he obviously didn't handle Gelo well, but with Melo in the end it worked out the kid is going to be a star and got to the NBA.

    Funny how that all worked out UCLA beat Cincy and Cronin in the tournament, after that was when UCLA fans started to seriously say you know if we get rid of Alford, Cronin should be on the list. We were all impressed with how well they played us given UCLA's clear talent edge.

    By the way Tracy Pierson already has an article up saying UCLA is expected to become involved with Simpson right away.
     

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