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Perhaps a bit lower than that given recent signing, but, still enough room for one or two extensions.
 

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I know there are still budgets and you'd rather not spend money just because you can, but why the heck not fill this cap room up later in the season? Is it for mid-season free agency pick up for injuries?
 

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I know there are still budgets and you'd rather not spend money just because you can, but why the heck not fill this cap room up later in the season? Is it for mid-season free agency pick up for injuries?

LSH and Toler are pending free agents, along with Kerry Rhodes who has a voidable year on his contract. Allegedly, the Cards are considering extending a new deal to Daryl Washington. Keep in mind also that the Cards are going to have to take on between $5.8 million and $11.6 million in dead money on the 2013 cap from whenever Kevin Kolb gets cut, and they probably can't afford to take on a ton of payroll for the 2013 season.

I think you can expect to see the Cards give LSH an additional $4 million this year and Washington an additional $5 million and you'll be close to where the Cards end up.

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According to the article, the number will change at the start of the season when all players on the 53-man roster and on any reserve list is accounted/

Also the team may now carry over any remaining cap space automatically, from one year to the next. So there’s no a longer a “use-it-or-lose-it” component to the salary cap.
 

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They've got a list of every team's salary cap room as of yesterday on their website. The Cardinals are sitting on $10 million vs 13.2 million for the Seahawks, 4 million for St.Louis and 3.5 million for the Whiners.

That should be no surprise. They have to spend up to 90% of their space by league rules. Maybe they will surprise us and use that other $10 once they figure out we have a QB problem. Niners are still on most of the gurus list I read as the likely winners of our division.
I keep hearing about the Seattle QB. Where did this guy come from and what position was he taken in the draft? Some of the gurus say he is the biggest surprise coming out of the draft and most say our biggest problem is ownership. Somethings never change.
 

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They've got a list of every team's salary cap room as of yesterday on their website. The Cardinals are sitting on $10 million vs 13.2 million for the Seahawks, 4 million for St.Louis and 3.5 million for the Whiners.

That should be no surprise. They have to spend up to 90% of their space by league rules. Maybe they will surprise us and use that other $10 once they figure out we have a QB problem. Niners are still on most of the gurus list I read as the likely winners of our division.
I keep hearing about the Seattle QB. Where did this guy come from and what position was he taken in the draft? Some of the gurus say he is the biggest surprise coming out of the draft and most say our biggest problem is ownership. Somethings never change.

I think the rule is actually that they need to pay out the equivalent of 90% of the salary cap number in salaries and bonus money in a given year - not necessarily use 90% of the salary cap. So, the bonus money paid to Kolb and Campbell counts in that calculation, even though most of that money is not counted in the salary cap until future years.
 

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I say feed the bean long term. I know others would say prove more first- but- think Garrison Hearst and Thomas Jones before you toss that thought.
 

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I say feed the bean long term. I know others would say prove more first- but- think Garrison Hearst and Thomas Jones before you toss that thought.

Actually, I would say: what the hell does this have to do with anything discussed in this thread so far? Or are you saying we should just stockpile our cash now so we can give Beanie a $200 million extension?
 

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More than I expected. Hopefully some of this is used to extend DWash before it ever becomes an issue.
 

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Actually, I would say: what the hell does this have to do with anything discussed in this thread so far? Or are you saying we should just stockpile our cash now so we can give Beanie a $200 million extension?


why would you give beanie a long term deal at this point? So glad SMEL isnt GM.
 

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I say feed the bean long term. I know others would say prove more first- but- think Garrison Hearst and Thomas Jones before you toss that thought.

Do you eat paint chips to pass the time?

Beanie Wells limps when he walks; when his contract is up, I hope RWill takes over, and Beanie limps off into the sunset.
 

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Am I the only one wh really really really wants to go trade for a LT/RT? Go after a guy whos causing a cap issue, or is disgruntled, or is just a Vet who has a talented young backup.

That 10 mill is more than enough to grab a big talent, and well just package the overtaking of the contract with a 5th or 6th rounder.


Theres noone in FA really, we need to start making some calls to teams.
 

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I'd trade Beanie in a heartbeat if it would get us a quality LT or RT. Bring back Smith and I am fine with our RB situation.
 

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Am I the only one wh really really really wants to go trade for a LT/RT? Go after a guy whos causing a cap issue, or is disgruntled, or is just a Vet who has a talented young backup.

That 10 mill is more than enough to grab a big talent, and well just package the overtaking of the contract with a 5th or 6th rounder.


Theres noone in FA really, we need to start making some calls to teams.

Let me know who you think is on the market...because I don't see anyone worth trading for that the other team would be willing to part with.
 

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As far as future cap numbers go, I would be shocked if the Cards did not re-sign Daryl Washington this season due to the Kevin Kolb situation as K9 indicated.

I would also be shocked if LSH was given anything less than a low offer due to his stature and how it limits his game impact.

As far as Kerry Rhodes goes, I think the team will look to lower his cap number one way or another. If Bethel shines this season, I would not be shocked if the Cards let Rhodes walk if he voids his deal.

In regards to Chris Wells, I don't see the team giving him a big contract so either he walks or decides to stay with Arizona at a low figure. He just doesn't seem to fit in today's NFL with his high running style, poor feet, and lack of open field ellusiveness. The drafting of Dan Williams and Chris Wells are still reall puzzlers to me with how the league was obviously changing at the time. Why waste high picks on part time players?

As far as the offensive line goes, good luck on fixing it in any way other than the draft and we know how the team likes to do that. Especially since they have invested money into all three interior positions, extended Levi and drafted Massie. I don't see eyes opening any time soon, so we better get used to the group we have, and hopefully Kelemente and Massie develop into studs.

All I know is with Dockett and Wilson aging and a total lack of outside pass rushers, our defense is going to need some young talent dedicated to it so we better get this QB situation settled either this year or next offseason.
 

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As far as future cap numbers go, I would be shocked if the Cards did not re-sign Daryl Washington this season due to the Kevin Kolb situation as K9 indicated.

I would also be shocked if LSH was given anything less than a low offer due to his stature and how it limits his game impact.

As far as Kerry Rhodes goes, I think the team will look to lower his cap number one way or another. If Bethel shines this season, I would not be shocked if the Cards let Rhodes walk if he voids his deal.

In regards to Chris Wells, I don't see the team giving him a big contract so either he walks or decides to stay with Arizona at a low figure. He just doesn't seem to fit in today's NFL with his high running style, poor feet, and lack of open field ellusiveness. The drafting of Dan Williams and Chris Wells are still reall puzzlers to me with how the league was obviously changing at the time. Why waste high picks on part time players?

As far as the offensive line goes, good luck on fixing it in any way other than the draft and we know how the team likes to do that. Especially since they have invested money into all three interior positions, extended Levi and drafted Massie. I don't see eyes opening any time soon, so we better get used to the group we have, and hopefully Kelemente and Massie develop into studs.

All I know is with Dockett and Wilson aging and a total lack of outside pass rushers, our defense is going to need some young talent dedicated to it so we better get this QB situation settled either this year or next offseason.

Total lack of OLB pass rush?

Acho in his FIRST half season as a starter picked up more than a few.
 

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Total lack of OLB pass rush?

Acho in his FIRST half season as a starter picked up more than a few.

Acho is a very solid football player, but he is not a pass rushing threat teams have to game plan around. We need to find the moster, unblockable machine outside that most top defenses have who can single handedly disrupt the other teams game plan.

It's not easy to find, but if we want a top defense, we need a guy like Aldon Smith, Terrell Suggs, James Harrison, Jared Allen, Mario Williams, Julius Peppers, Von Miller (kind of), Elvis Dumervill, DeMarcus Ware, JPP, Clay Matthews, Dwight Freeney and Tamba Hali. This type of plaer would change everything. Campbell at DE, Washington ILB, Peterson at CB, and an outside speed rusher, all for the next 3 years would be amazing.
 

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Acho is a very solid football player, but he is not a pass rushing threat teams have to game plan around. We need to find the moster, unblockable machine outside that most top defenses have who can single handedly disrupt the other teams game plan.

It's not easy to find, but if we want a top defense, we need a guy like Aldon Smith, Terrell Suggs, James Harrison, Jared Allen, Mario Williams, Julius Peppers, Von Miller (kind of), Elvis Dumervill, DeMarcus Ware, JPP, Clay Matthews, Dwight Freeney and Tamba Hali. This type of plaer would change everything. Campbell at DE, Washington ILB, Peterson at CB, and an outside speed rusher, all for the next 3 years would be amazing.

word is Melvin Ingram's probably gonna be added to that list. That was my issue with the Floyd pick. You can get solid #2 WRs in FA or later in the draft, but you almost never get dominating edge rushers anywhere but in the top two rounds of the draft, and likely it only happens in the first.
 

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Acho is a very solid football player, but he is not a pass rushing threat teams have to game plan around. We need to find the moster, unblockable machine outside that most top defenses have who can single handedly disrupt the other teams game plan.

It's not easy to find, but if we want a top defense, we need a guy like Aldon Smith, Terrell Suggs, James Harrison, Jared Allen, Mario Williams, Julius Peppers, Von Miller (kind of), Elvis Dumervill, DeMarcus Ware, JPP, Clay Matthews, Dwight Freeney and Tamba Hali. This type of plaer would change everything. Campbell at DE, Washington ILB, Peterson at CB, and an outside speed rusher, all for the next 3 years would be amazing.

If Acho becomes a 10/12 sack guy with a bunch of hurries, he'll be in the game plan. If the Cards are top 5 in sacks, I couldn't care leas about the name on the jersey.
 

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word is Melvin Ingram's probably gonna be added to that list. That was my issue with the Floyd pick. You can get solid #2 WRs in FA or later in the draft, but you almost never get dominating edge rushers anywhere but in the top two rounds of the draft, and likely it only happens in the first.

Theres infinitely more guys who were supposed to be awesome pass rushers who suck in the NFL.

Vernon Gholston was one of the most dominating pass rushers to come out of college. He manhandled the #1 overall pick, Jake Long, in the Michigan/Ohio State game.

Ingram was a comparatively slow, 1 season wonder. Major gamble. And, I should point out, whos to say hes great now? Hes played in preseason. Thats all. The jury is still out.



Floyd was a need at #2 WR. He had a history with Larry. Hes a big body built for our type of offense (near throws, not deep passes).

MF was a solid, safe pick which is what we need since weve struck out on 1st rounders the past few years.
 

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Theres infinitely more guys who were supposed to be awesome pass rushers who suck in the NFL.

Vernon Gholston was one of the most dominating pass rushers to come out of college. He manhandled the #1 overall pick, Jake Long, in the Michigan/Ohio State game.

Ingram was a comparatively slow, 1 season wonder. Major gamble. And, I should point out, whos to say hes great now? Hes played in preseason. Thats all. The jury is still out.



Floyd was a need at #2 WR. He had a history with Larry. Hes a big body built for our type of offense (near throws, not deep passes).

MF was a solid, safe pick which is what we need since weve struck out on 1st rounders the past few years.

Patrick Peterson definitely disagrees with you here.

Anyone who says that a WR with a Top 20 pick is "safe" may in fact be on MDMA.
 

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