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After seeing him last year, what is his potential as a starter with the Cards? Was it a mistake to draft him? Who in this draft would you say compares most to him and where would he be ranked in this coming draft?
Have you seen him this year? He is in great shape, and gained more muscle. I am predicting he will a pro bowl caliber perfomer!
 

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Have you seen him this year? He is in great shape, and gained more muscle. I am predicting he will a pro bowl caliber perfomer!
Rondale Moore? That could hinder him rather than help. He was always in great shape. Size will never be to his benefit, and getting too buff can lead to injuries to WRs--ask David Boston. I'm not saying this will happen, just that it's no guarantee of success for RM. He does have a lousy injury record going back to college, though, so we shouldn't expect too much.
 

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Rondale Moore? That could hinder him rather than help. He was always in great shape. Size will never be to his benefit, and getting too buff can lead to injuries to WRs--ask David Boston. I'm not saying this will happen, just that it's no guarantee of success for RM. He does have a lousy injury record going back to college, though, so we shouldn't expect too much.

You should have "We shouldn't expect too much" printed on a T shirt ;)

Rondale is going to be great this year. As is Zaven Collins.
 

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You should have "We shouldn't expect too much" printed on a T shirt ;)

Rondale is going to be great this year. As is Zaven Collins.
That'd be a pretty realistic T-shirt :)

I'm glad you think RM and ZC will be great this year. Well, I should say "hope," because that's all it is. I hope so, too! I've just not seen anything to expect it to be so yet, and certainly no proof to make it the certainty you state.
 

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That'd be a pretty realistic T-shirt :)

I'm glad you think RM and ZC will be great this year. Well, I should say "hope," because that's all it is. I hope so, too! I've just not seen anything to expect it to be so yet, and certainly no proof to make it the certainty you state.

It's not hope. Marco Wilson would be hope.

I've seen enough from Moore and Collins (especially Moore) to feel confident in a greater than 50% chance both are upgrades this year at the very least.
 

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It's not hope. Marco Wilson would be hope.

I've seen enough from Moore and Collins (especially Moore) to feel confident in a greater than 50% chance both are upgrades this year at the very least.
Okay. That's your opinion, and I hope your opinion is correct. Or, better, that you're underselling them even. But, for me, it's only hope.
 

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The key for Rondale is Kyler.

Is he going to trust Rondale like he did Kirk? Kirk wasn't the biggest guy but Kyler still trusted him on certain throws down the field.

Kyler has to trust Rondale. However, with Rondale's smaller catch radius, I think Kyler is going to have to be even more pinpoint on downfield passes.
 

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The key for Rondale is Kyler.

Is he going to trust Rondale like he did Kirk? Kirk wasn't the biggest guy but Kyler still trusted him on certain throws down the field.

Kyler has to trust Rondale. However, with Rondale's smaller catch radius, I think Kyler is going to have to be even more pinpoint on downfield passes.
Agreed. Rondale can't be the guy on the shallow crosser like he was against Green Bay. Kyler's propensity to be high coupled with his small catch radius is a recipe for disaster.

This might be why he gets so many horizontal throws to the boundaries.
 

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The key for Rondale is Kyler.

Is he going to trust Rondale like he did Kirk? Kirk wasn't the biggest guy but Kyler still trusted him on certain throws down the field.

Kyler has to trust Rondale. However, with Rondale's smaller catch radius, I think Kyler is going to have to be even more pinpoint on downfield passes.

I'm not sure I agree on the smaller catch radius thing.

On paper Kirk has longer arms and a theoretically better catch radius. But I think Moore wins through much better agility and athleticism. That catch against the Niners where Moore catches the ball out of bounds on his tip toes at full extension...Kirk isn't catching that.

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The key for Rondale is Kyler.

Is he going to trust Rondale like he did Kirk? Kirk wasn't the biggest guy but Kyler still trusted him on certain throws down the field.

Kyler has to trust Rondale. However, with Rondale's smaller catch radius, I think Kyler is going to have to be even more pinpoint on downfield passes.
Yep, good analysis.
 

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I'm not sure I agree on the smaller catch radius thing.

On paper Kirk has longer arms and a theoretically better catch radius. But I think Moore wins through much better agility and athleticism. That catch against the Niners where Moore catches the ball out of bounds on his tip toes at full extension...Kirk isn't catching that.

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I always found Kirks catch radius to be lacking a bit. Quite a few balls that it looked like he should have been able to get that he didn't.

I was describing Kirk to a friend the other day: not quite fast enough to be a true burner, not quite big enough to be a possession guy. He's still a good player, but he isn't a do it all kind of receiver.
 

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I'm not sure I agree on the smaller catch radius thing.

On paper Kirk has longer arms and a theoretically better catch radius. But I think Moore wins through much better agility and athleticism. That catch against the Niners where Moore catches the ball out of bounds on his tip toes at full extension...Kirk isn't catching that.

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And Isabella would have never been able to complete his route to have a chance of catching that lol
 

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That'd be a pretty realistic T-shirt :)

I'm glad you think RM and ZC will be great this year. Well, I should say "hope," because that's all it is. I hope so, too! I've just not seen anything to expect it to be so yet, and certainly no proof to make it the certainty you state.
Moore was pretty damn explosive early in the year when teams didn't squat down on his routes. Having Hollywood should mean that they won't be able to this year.

We don't know exactly what was going down behind the seasons, but it was almost criminal how the Cardinals were using Rondale down the stretch. That dude is tailor made to use as a motion player to get him out in space with some cushion.
 
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