Preseason week 1 Cowboys @ Cardinals Pregame thread 8-9 thru 8-13, 2021

[juza76]

Mccoy is a better qb, yes, at today
But he can't give any significant contributios in game day, and streveler can
I saw him moving the pile in the qb sneak today
We miseed those plays a lot

 

[Jetstream Green]

I’m sorry but he’s pretty inaccurate on anything over 15 yards. This isn’t the CFL

If left in against the horrible depth the Cowboys have on defense, McCoy would have won the game by two scores... I bet Stev can open beer bottles with his teeth better than he can throw a ball with his arm

 

[Buckybird]

Yeah

Tell me honestly, one throw he made in the end zone with triple coverage was a dime to Harris
I saw some drops
He went for some vertical but the receivers couldn't beat the defenders, his throws were in the right spot
I see a guy who improved a lot

I never said he didn’t slightly improve. All I’m saying is imo he’s not a capable NFL backup QB. Again he’s rarely on target on any throw more than 15 yards. And the passing performance was against mostly against guys who won’t be In this league.

how soon we forget that pitiful performance last year in week 17. You know who he reminds me of throwing the rock? Ryan Lindley. But again this is what I see. Sorry I just don’t see it

McCoy is sooo much better!!!

 

[Buckybird]

If left in against the horrible depth the Cowboys have on defense, McCoy would have won the game by two scores... I bet Stev can open beer bottles with his teeth better than he can throw a ball with his arm

Lol yet sooo true Jet

 

[juza76]

Before repeating like a broken record he is never accurate over 15 yards can u all rewatch all his throws today
Thank u

 

[juza76]

If left in against the horrible depth the Cowboys have on defense, McCoy would have won the game by two scores... I bet Stev can open beer bottles with his teeth better than he can throw a ball with his arm

Ahah no, the qb never had enough time to throw with second third unit
Gilbert is significantly better, and the Cooper rush probable
But is worthless at this point cause u seem to ignore Mccoy career

 

[perivolaki]

On a positive note liked what Zaven Collins did tonight. He looked fast and physical. Moore can be a true difference maker this year if used right. Marco looked good at CB as well.

I agree.
Although Prater might be the most important addition to the team. He will win us 2-3 extra games this year.

 

[mjb21aztd]

Great kick by prater to w zane would have shanked hard lol always did under pressure

Moore looked good and good catch by kirk

Toke hit to cards beating cowgirls lol hey i haven't typed that in bit

 

[LarryStalling]

I loved this game. This season is a success for no other reason than we be the Cowboys.

 

[Buckybird]

Before repeating like a broken record he is never accurate over 15 yards can u all rewatch all his throws today
Thank u

Rarely & never don’t have the same meaning. Have a good night this game is over see ya next week

 

[juza76]

Rarely & never don’t have the same meaning. Have a good night this game is over see ya next week

For me is morning but thank you
Good night

 

[Jetstream Green]

Ahah no, the qb never had enough time to throw with second third unit
Gilbert is significantly better, and the Cooper rush probable
But is worthless at this point cause u seem to ignore Mccoy career

I know McCoy well enough to feel he gives us a chance as a game manager to win us a game or maybe two if Kyler is out for a short period... Stev? He's maybe Skelton 2.0 or Ryan Lindley with running ability

 

[BritCard]

I only really look for the individual positives in these games. Hard to expect 3rd string O lines to be cohesive units.

Collins and Simmons looked good.
Colt McCoy might be the best backup we had for some time.
Rondale looks legit.
Our RB room is fine. Eno looks vastly improved and Ward looks good too.
There might be a surprise in the WR room.
Prater is a big step up. He looked cooked last year but back on form.
The young CBs have potential, including Whitaker.

But as @SoonerLou said we should have taken Trey Smith over Dimukeje.

 

[Minski]

I just finished watching. I wasn’t that impressed with Ward at all. Maybe I need to rewatch

 

[Garthshort]

I won't go into details, but it seems to me that after one PS game, the NEGATIVE posters are in mid-season form.

 

[Stout]

Excited to see how Kliff uses Rondale. You can certainly see that speed.

Agreed. The kid looked good out there. Bounced back up from a hit i feared would break him. Durability will be key, as will his ability to go deep and catch over the middle. For all he looked good, it wasn't anything earth shattering. He'll need to show more than catching short stuff and trick plays/end arounds. But he did what he was called upon to do, and I was encouraged.

Collins flashed well. I think he'll need to be more stout (pun intended) at the point of attack--he looks like--but for a first showing in the preseason as a rook, I was happy.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Cardinals first-round rookie Zaven Collins impresses in NFL preseason debut​

Cardinals linebacker Zaven Collins is making the step up from college football at Tulsa to the NFL, and in his first preseason game on Friday night he looked like he belonged.

Collins tackled Cowboys running back Tony Pollard for a two-yard loss on the second play from scrimmage, later added a quarterback hit, and looked very comfortable as the player making the defensive play calls.

“Yeah, I feel for the plays that we got we executed pretty efficiently as a defense,” Collins said, via the Arizona Republic. “Making that good play at the beginning was obviously a good start.”

Collins, Isaiah Simmons and Jordan Hicks played plenty together in three-linebacker sets.

“It was more than I thought it would be,” Collins said, via SI.com. “I felt comfortable in our defense. There was great communication between the three of us.”

Collins won the Bronko Nagurski Award and Chuck Bednarik Award last season as the best defensive player in college football, and the Cardinals drafted him with the 16th overall pick. The expectations for him are high, and the Cardinals have to be happy with what they saw.

 

[DVontel]

Markus Golden. As a persona, I love him. As a player, I really don’t like him.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Markus Golden. As a persona, I love him. As a player, I really don’t like him.

Ha, when the first play of the game was a boot his way, I wondered if they were just being cruel. Guy bites EVERY TIME.

Looked like we were in end of season form last night, more procedure penalties, more QB running for his life.

 

[football karma]

im not sure why Chris Streveler is on the roster

again: could he be a third QB in a poor man's Taysom Hill role playing STs, TE, etc? maybe

but as a pure QB? no way.

Kliff: he couldnt start for his Canadian Football League team

 

[bankybruce]

im not sure why Chris Streveler is on the roster

again: could he be a third QB in a poor man's Taysom Hill role playing STs, TE, etc? maybe

but as a pure QB? no way.

Kliff: he couldnt start for his Canadian Football League team

While I feel he's garbage, starting in the CFL is complicated because of the Canadian born rule. That doesn't always mean anything.

 

[PACardsFan]

With Murray out, it became very obvious how inconsistent our OL is in pass protection. Murray hides a lot of their warts. McCoy has some escapability, and yet he had no shot at escaping at times. Streveler is a pretty decent 3rd stringer who can escape the pocket much better than McCoy & can run to daylight when needed. I came away being more thankful than ever that Kyler Murray is the QB of the Arizona Cardinals.

 

[PACardsFan]

Bottom line, FAR more to like than to dislike!

 

[Russ Smith]

I agree with most but I still feel he isn’t an NFL caliber QB. McCoy isn’t great but he’s a huge upgrade over him.

I like McCoy too I'm just saying I think there is a reason the Cards like Streveler. I don't think the plan is necessarily him ever being a starter.

 

[football karma]

the good:

Zaven Collins looks like a NFL LB
Rondale Moore belongs.
Marco Wilson: may have found a contributor at a premium position on day 3. That would be a huge draft win.
Noticed lots of Ram-like misdirection plays (seems new)
Eno showed something

the bad:
o-line play was pretty mediocre to outright poor as backups rotated in
the Wards had a chance to show, but didnt. Jonathan and JoJo.